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rynnce
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Can someone describe the tone compared to the T/D module?
Thanks.
Thanks.
RockStarNick
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I'm sure Matt will chime in on this one, cuz he's owned both.
You CAN set it dead clean, if you keep the gain very low. The Vox Channel A IS a clean channel, but it's a totally different kind of clean than the TD "twin" clean. The VX has that bouncy, sproingy class A feel to it. And to my ears, it achieves that bounce by having a hint of gain to the sound, to compress the signal, in a pleasing way.
Does that make any sense?
I'm definitely going to get a VX one of these days.
You CAN set it dead clean, if you keep the gain very low. The Vox Channel A IS a clean channel, but it's a totally different kind of clean than the TD "twin" clean. The VX has that bouncy, sproingy class A feel to it. And to my ears, it achieves that bounce by having a hint of gain to the sound, to compress the signal, in a pleasing way.
Does that make any sense?
I'm definitely going to get a VX one of these days.
marvcus
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VX channel B is high gain.
Think "Plush" by STP. You can easily play leads w/o a pedal. Great alternate gain sound.
Think "Plush" by STP. You can easily play leads w/o a pedal. Great alternate gain sound.
RockStarNick
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If tweaked right, (2) VX Modules loaded into a Mod50 could probably get you a very cool, 4-channel BadCat-inspired setup. You'd have to go from Channel 1, to 3, to 2, to 4, in ascending gain order, but it could work.
EWSEthan
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These two modules are night and day different. Do not sound at all close to each other. It really depends on what you want. T/D = big, fat, pristine clean, with a warm, spongy overdrive. Vx = chimey, bright, slightly dirty clean with a bright crisp overdrive.
The Twin will stay very clean and has lots of headroom. The Vx has very very little headroom if you are using humhuckers. I could not get a useable clean sound out of it because I like my cleans pretty clean. The problem is this... yes, you can get a clean sound out of it if you keep the gain WAY down and the channel master WAY up. The problem here is that you will overload any effect you have in the loop. I like delays and chorus on my cleans so this is no good for me. It just makes it slighty hard to balance overall volume with your other channels. But if you are looking for an AAR, Switchfoot, or Oasis type thing, Vx does sound great.
Personally, I think Bman is the perfect mixture of both of these modules. However, if you want a T/D, PM me as I might be inclined to sell mine since I dont really use it.
The Twin will stay very clean and has lots of headroom. The Vx has very very little headroom if you are using humhuckers. I could not get a useable clean sound out of it because I like my cleans pretty clean. The problem is this... yes, you can get a clean sound out of it if you keep the gain WAY down and the channel master WAY up. The problem here is that you will overload any effect you have in the loop. I like delays and chorus on my cleans so this is no good for me. It just makes it slighty hard to balance overall volume with your other channels. But if you are looking for an AAR, Switchfoot, or Oasis type thing, Vx does sound great.
Personally, I think Bman is the perfect mixture of both of these modules. However, if you want a T/D, PM me as I might be inclined to sell mine since I dont really use it.
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rynnce
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EWSEthan":2acnfupi said:
Thanks, I ordered the SL2 and T/D with the Mod50 and am just getting nervous whether I ordered the right modules. I also picked the SL2 by the narrowest of margins over the EG3/4 and am wondering if that was the right choice. I guess I'll stick with my original choices and see what happens. By your description the T/D was the correct choice for me over the Vox.
muudrock
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rynnce":3llurftr said:
Dude, ordering Egnater modules is like going into a bar and ordering a Beer.....You can't make a wrong decision and you will like whatever you try.
You can cover just about anything with those 2 modules.
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broknstuff
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I love the vx module, probably my favorite single module; It doesn't have a ton of headroom, but I think it sounds killer with a split humbucker for a clean sound with some gritt on top if that makes sense. It has high end without being shrill; The break up is very chimey; it's a very different break up than a fender inspired bluesy tone. It's not a clean tone in itself but IMO sounds really good as an alternative or accompaniment to a traditional clean tone. Channel A can go up to a medium gain, and channel B can go up to a high gain if you so choose, and it does it very well.
It's my favorite mod, and I could totally see owning 2 of these one day...once I collect the rest first! I don't think you could go wrong with the T/D either, I have a dlx and it's a great fender clean sound, very warm and big. They're very different modules, so maybe try one out down the line and see how it works out for you! I haven't tried the BMan by the way, but that's on my short list.
If egnater ever made a light weight portable rm20 style combo or head (hint hint
) that only held 1 module and you could chose between the channels, then the vx would definitely be a module that could definitely get me by a gig or jam.
It's my favorite mod, and I could totally see owning 2 of these one day...once I collect the rest first! I don't think you could go wrong with the T/D either, I have a dlx and it's a great fender clean sound, very warm and big. They're very different modules, so maybe try one out down the line and see how it works out for you! I haven't tried the BMan by the way, but that's on my short list.
If egnater ever made a light weight portable rm20 style combo or head (hint hint
) that only held 1 module and you could chose between the channels, then the vx would definitely be a module that could definitely get me by a gig or jam.
Hectic Watermelon
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rynnce":1sxw7otq said:
That is a great way to get started as you now have two book ends nailed now on the whole Fender-Marshall continuum. A Vox or COD would be a great way to add a third dimension to your tones when you start gassing. I am on those first two more than anything for live.
guitarslinger
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EWSEthan":30690svj said:
Yeah, but that's not a problem at all with an M4. I just need to keep the channel volumes in check on the other modules.
Master goes where I want it.
Fx go after the preamp.
EDIT: BTW, it's probably my favorite module, overall. I felt the Bman was great, but a little bland compared to the VX. The VX is just a tonal masterpiece. I can't imagine a real vox sounding that much better. I guess I've only played a few modern AC30's, but still. I'm just sayin', I've played a lot of shit, and the VX is downright beautiful and inspiring. It sounds fantastic with FX too.
EWSEthan
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guitarslinger":52q7d1hj said:
But doesnt the channel volume also dictate the send level for the M4? Thats what wasnt working for me with the Vx. For as clean as I wanted it, I had to absolutely crank the channel master which sends quite a hot level to FX.
The module definitely sounds awesome and I will probably have another at some point, but it was my only module for cleans at the time and I was just looking for something "cleaner". If thats not an issue for you and like Vx tones, its a killer! I will probably have another at some point though. I mean, Im GASing right now just thinking about it!
guitarslinger
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EWSEthan":9snr4edx said:
NO.
The M4 doesn't have or need an FX loop. The M4 Master Volume IS the send level, and it doesn't care where the VX channel volume is, as long as my other channel volumes are in check.
Hectic Watermelon
Member
On the whole issue of matching levels live and in studio, since I use the TD A chan with single coils and need it at a very lound and full volume that this becomes the base level against which all the otheres are matched. I probably run the master hotter than I would if I were to only use my SL2 EG5 and EG3/SL (JC special ). However, what I have discovered is that a cranked master being hit with a generally lower output pre sounds a little different that cranking the pre and then needing less master level. I'm under the impression that there is a good amount of headroom in the power section so you don't get too much extra "distortion" no matter how hard it gets hit by the pre. The big issue is how relatively hot the other pres are goin out as line level signals to FX in the loop.
). However, what I have discovered is that a cranked master being hit with a generally lower output pre sounds a little different that cranking the pre and then needing less master level. I'm under the impression that there is a good amount of headroom in the power section so you don't get too much extra "distortion" no matter how hard it gets hit by the pre. The big issue is how relatively hot the other pres are goin out as line level signals to FX in the loop.