Jesus man, I'm so sick of the HCAF bashers!

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I posted my latest Vh4 clip (after I retubed it with KT77), and there are some great comments, and a few ppl liked it, but other can't seem to wait for a new Diezel clip thread to start talking crap. This is what I answered to some of those cats:

Joeytpg:

well, I'm open to critics of course....and some of the critics here have help me A LOT specially with the problem I had with my bright monitor speakers and not knowing where the sweet spot was. But sorry to say this, I believe a there are a lot of Diezel haters around that cannot wait to see a Diezel clip thread to bash it and put it down.

always the same comments:
"it just doesn't sound good"
"if that's how a $4,000 + amp sounds"

etc etc It might not be your cup of tea but why is there a need to "bash" and put down the amp/clip if you know it's the amp you don't like?. If you indeeed like that amp, but feel the recorded tone sucks, or needs something else, then be a good critic and advice something to make it better.

I don't post clips here to "show off" my $4,000 amp. I do it to get some feedback and gain some good intended critic to improve my clip qualities. do you know what I mean?

sorry guys, I don't wanna come off as an ass, and I do have thick skin regarding critics, but some of the critics I've gotten with my Diezel clips are pure bullshit.

I've posted some duesentrieb Little joe clips and gotten positive comments (even if you don't like the clip or the tone but it's always been constructive comments.
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That is why I am not on HC as often as I used to be. I was involved in a rather long discussion about impedance matching, and why it is so important. I spent some time doing research about how the power output will change, and the frequency response will change, but there are a lot of people even one amp builder who bashed me and said that it is always unsafe to mismatch your impedance. They then quoted some article on the net that mentions flyback voltage, but no description of what it is (I am still trying to find a good technical description of what it is), and in that same article the guy says that he missmatches all the time!!!

I made a remark to the amp builder something along the lines that a lot of "boutique" amp builders just take a standard marshall circuit, and change a couple of things, but don't really understand the whys and hows of tube amps, and why some things are done a certain way I got no response. I would think that an amp builder should have been able to at least give me a summary of what flyback voltage is, and therefore why it is important to match your impedance, but I don't think that he knows.

BTW I saw the post, and heard your clip, and it sounds good!! I just think that they are trying to justify their view that there is no point in having an amp that is worth over $1000. It seems like there are a lot of people there who won't justify spending big bucks on a guitar, or amp. Other people like me think that it is a hobby, and there are a lot of other hobbies that are a lot more expensive. That being said I do try to buy my gear used to save money when I can, but I have no problems having a total of about $6000-7000 worth of gear.
 
Sadly, people will always have something to say. You will never please everybody and losing sleep over it only harms YOU. As long as you know in your heart you did "right" or "your best" or whatever other application could apply, that is all that matters. Hold your head up high and don't let it get to you. I have experienced it many times myself. Remember, misery loves company and jealousy is a bitch.

I happen to appreciate you and see your heart in what you do. Thanks for being you. Too often we forget why we do this crazy stuff we do in the first place. We all got into music for fun and it is fun. Lets not lose the joy of the musical journey. It is supposed to be fun. It is supposed to be a growing and learning experience. When these dynamics get lost it is time to get out......no matter what level a person is at.

Just my rambling 2 cents opinion...lol.
 
These are people who don´t know nothing about recording. They think the recorded sound is relly the amp sound.
Once i recorded my old Marshall JCM 900. Some of those guys thought it was a rectifier. And no one thought i was a jcm900!

Even Bob Rock or Rick Rubin or Desmond Child or......, could not record any amp to sound like it truly sounds like. Every recorded sound is the sound of the producer. But not only the recorded sound! The same with live sounds here.

A time ago i complained that the Herbert does not distort enough. F.e. as a Marshall DSL( this amp is a distortion machine).
But when i record the Herb, especially with a sm57, the mic adds a lot of it. So when ive done the record i can post eq the signal to make my Herbert sound like a Marshall...if i want.


So, dont give a damn!

Edit.

Ive listened the clip once again. Solo is ok.
The rhythm guitar needs more low cut and push the higher frequencies to have more bite.
 
i think its the net in general, at times there can be so much negativity on these boards. arent they meant to inspire on to play? and yeah critisim is great but bashing is kinda pointless right? for what its worth i dig your vids, and your a much better heavy riffer than me :yes:

peace
A Wood
 
That's because you need to stop posting on boards & start playing & recording your music. As much of a gear freak as I am, I think some of us, including myself, have gone way over the line chasing the holy grail sound. I've dropped all that shit lately & I feel much better (that's because I drink a lot of Jack Daniels & hang out in clubs instead of getting some work done :D ).

The point is - let's listen to some of your music. I've seen some cool songs on your youtube, let's get them recorded. :thumbsup:
 
thanks guys, I agree 100% with you. sometimes being on these boards becomes an addiction...I really enjoy it most of the times, and there are some pricks and haters/bashers that's for sure, but there are some great ppl too.

I'm relatively new to these boards (Rig-talk/Diezel/HC) prob. around two years or so, but before it was a little bit more about the gear and the cool clips and the videos, now is about random useless crap (a guy that opens 8 or 9 threads at the same time! and none of them have gear/music content! :thumbsdown: )

But again, I enjoy hanging out with some of the cooler cats, Duolos, Van H., Duesie, Jaymz, JKD, Jugger, Peter, TU BE, etc etc etc, but man.....there are some other guys in there that :gethim:

I also agree that being around these places take away from the crativity and focus on music creation......it sucks... in my case what happened is that I played the SAME guitar and SAME amp for over 9 years, and finally got into guitar way more seriously and started searching for my tone, hense the Mesa F-50/Einstein/Vh4/Little joe and 4 guitars in less than 3 years! (good I need to downsize!! :lol: :LOL: ) but oh well, I guess it's just a phase.

I'm actually writing/home recording my "debut" Demo-album which will be a full album (10 - 12 songs) but with Home recording quality (the best I can of course) that's why I brand it -Demo album- right? and sometimes these escapades where I try to record some clips to get some feedback on tone, etc helps a lot to "grow"

anyhow, the comment was because of all the Diezel Bash.......I don't think those guys have anything against me.......it's the DIEZEL! like I said I've posted Little Joe's videos/clips and most of them have dug it........but when the tittle says "Diezel" it's like Olaf said once..........."they're already getting ready to bash before listening to the clip"
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van hellion":iemkcizv said:
i think its the net in general, at times there can be so much negativity on these boards. arent they meant to inspire on to play? and yeah critisim is great but bashing is kinda pointless right? for what its worth i dig your vids, and your a much better heavy riffer than me :yes:

peace
A Wood
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dude don't even say that... you ROCK!

btw how crazy, even some of the hater there were talking crap with Kage posted the thread about you, jebuz!
 
Joey, just stay away from HCAF. that place sucks just in an unbelievable way...it only costs nerves

remember: this is the internet. every little dork who got beaten up in school is a hero on the web, stronger than He-Man, more powerful than God and is shooting lightenings out of his ass while he farts. and HCAF is just the assembly point of all of this.
 
People always criticize what they can never attain.....remember that. :thumbsup:
 
Joey,
I totally understand your pain.
What has been said about HCAF here is so true, unfortunately.
When you deal with children, who are idiots, as well as young, uneducated players when it comes to high class gear, this is what happens.
Remember however, that trying to argue with a fool gets to the point where the intelligent person cannot be differentiated from the fool in the eyes of those watching and reading. :doh:
Therefore, don't argue with them, as it brings you down to their level. :thumbsup:

Or as I like to say..."Screw those stupid bastids!" :lol: :LOL:
 
I posted my latest Vh4 clip (after I retubed it with KT77), and there are some great comments, and a few ppl liked it, but other can't seem to wait for a new Diezel clip thread to start talking crap. This is what I answered to some of those cats:
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Ya....HC is a bit of a dicey place at times. Like anything, there are some good and some bad folks there. Always expect criticism when you put yourself up on display. Most of the time, it's because of sheer jealousy. Guitar players seem to be the worst for that, if anything. I get it all the time from friends who are guitar players because I don't own a Gibson or a Fender. So what?....quite frankly, I like what I like.

Either way, at the end of the day, if you enjoy what you are doing and having fun doing it, then leave it at that.

For what it's worth, I bet 95% of the critics haven't even seen a Diezel up close......and then if they are listening to clips through tiny computer speakers...how can you make a judgement call on that? I always say "forgive them for they do not know what they are missing".
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yeah, it's sad really....but again, It really doesn't affect me much, I just wanted to make the comment :)
 
HC has become the dirty truckstop of musicians. I'm getting to the point where I can barely stand it. Most of the forumites from HC that I knew years ago (some back to 2001) are here on Rig-Talk. I'm glad I have another guitar forum to go to when the psychos come out on HC..
 
Duolos":2hititv2 said:
People always criticize what they can never attain.....remember that. :thumbsup:
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That is an excellent point. That makes sence, as I often wonder why people do that. I mean how can you put something down which is obviosly superior. A lot of the time I figure it is just young kids with no idea whatsoever.
 
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