Just A/B'd my XTC 101b and Diezel Herbert

[suhrimmetal]

After a few days I finally got around to comparing these 2 great amps. I've owned the Herbert for a bit now but tonally I was looking for something different... and I have found it in the Bogner XTC 101b. I had my girlfriend(who has a great music ear and knows more music trivia then any1 I know) sit there and listen and give me her unbiased opinion.. I didn't even get 2 minutes into jamming thru the Bogner when she said that one(XTC) hands down. She said it sounded 'fuller', and used some other girl terms but basically said it seemed warmer and punchier and when I said 'organic' and 'woody'...she said...yes, that's it. No knock to Diezel cuz they make amazing machines that are played by great musicians with a better ear than me. I just find Bogner suits my tonal needs more... I absolutely love ch2 with boost on...and ch3...f'n forget about it...Love it!!! From classic, to 80's(where I think the XTC nails dead on with balls) to Modern rock.. The XTC sits right in the pocket..warm but punchy, open and organic...just a beautiful creature that hits you in the face...and it feels good. Headn out to rehearsals now to turn her up and see how she holds up against a full band...I have no doubts. Cheerz fellow Bognerists. Rock n Roll

Cory

 

[se7en]

Cool. I also greatly prefer any XTC to a Herbert...but, I gravitate to organic over hi-fi. The Herbert is a great amp, too.

Rock on! Let us know how it goes with the band.

 

[ttosh]

 

[gbsmusic]

You've got a great girlfriend! My X-Wife would never have even listened to both to give me an opinion. I guess thats why she's my X!!!!!! And buried in my yard

 

[steve_k]

You've got a great girlfriend! My X-Wife would never have even listened to both to give me an opinion. I guess thats why she's my X!!!!!! And buried in my yard

....in one piece or scattered about?

 

[ttosh]

You've got a great girlfriend! My X-Wife would never have even listened to both to give me an opinion. I guess thats why she's my X!!!!!! And buried in my yard

....in one piece or scattered about?

Scatterred about, there was one piece he saved, it is hanging on the back of a cycle somewhere.....

 

[TheMagicEight]

After a few days I finally got around to comparing these 2 great amps. I've owned the Herbert for a bit now but tonally I was looking for something different... and I have found it in the Bogner XTC 101b. I had my girlfriend(who has a great music ear and knows more music trivia then any1 I know) sit there and listen and give me her unbiased opinion.. I didn't even get 2 minutes into jamming thru the Bogner when she said that one(XTC) hands down. She said it sounded 'fuller', and used some other girl terms but basically said it seemed warmer and punchier and when I said 'organic' and 'woody'...she said...yes, that's it. No knock to Diezel cuz they make amazing machines that are played by great musicians with a better ear than me. I just find Bogner suits my tonal needs more... I absolutely love ch2 with boost on...and ch3...f'n forget about it...Love it!!! From classic, to 80's(where I think the XTC nails dead on with balls) to Modern rock.. The XTC sits right in the pocket..warm but punchy, open and organic...just a beautiful creature that hits you in the face...and it feels good. Headn out to rehearsals now to turn her up and see how she holds up against a full band...I have no doubts. Cheerz fellow Bognerists. Rock n Roll

Same here. The Diezel amps are awesome - I had an Einstein a few years back and would love to get another - but the XTC is mind blowing for that huge, full, organic, woody tone!

 

[Oz Hofstatter]

I also have the Diezel Herbert and Bogner XTC 20th.
I still like a lot my Herbie, but today my favorite is the XTC.
Cheers,
Oz

 

[tonyr4music]

XTC and Uberschall hands down. I owned a Herbert for 5yrs but always felt like I was missing something until I heard a friend playing Jazz/Rock Fusion trough an Uberschall and that just shock me how well the amp sounded. How can he sound so amazing thought the Uberschall. So I decided to get me one. Got me an Uberschall, changed the default tubes for some Winged-C and hand picked every single preamp tube, run it trough my Diezel cab with v30s/h30s and I was completely BLOW out of my mind how amazing the amp sounded... so much that I sold my Herbert. Nothing to do with the Herbert, the Herbert is an amazing amp on his own right but just NOT what I like. Then got me a XTC 101B, the 101B is just an amazing amp, all can do and all can do amazingly well. I love both Bogner amps. Lately I've been using my XTC way more than anything else, it sounds great even at bedroom volume levels.

 

[Ventura]

FWIW, my migration from the staple VH4 for almost 7 years to the Hagen was primarily due to the 20thA XTC. Yep. I found the more I played my 20thA, the more I realized I love the organic, rich, chewiness of a Bogner over the, gulp, surgically tight and razor sharp personality of the V. Now, please understand, the V is still, to me, one of the best amps of all time - period. Versatility, mega!! But my enjoyment in playing, the need for a little grease in my style, etc. had me playing the 20thA way more than my VH4. So it goes.

Bogner's got it going on man, and you either dig, or you don't. Doesn't matter, there's no right or wrong, it's whatever fills yer ears with happy that's the answer for anyone. I loved my VH4 for a long time, and I actually liked it a hella better than the Herbert, just due to its characteristics (attack, cut, bloom, etc). That being said, I ended up with a 20thA and the scales tipped - first time in years. I like the greasiness. Now, I have a Hagen, which to me is the 20thA of Diezels. I am floored by how awesome an amp it is - and JUST for shits and giggles - this new rig has me ABY'ing it all together now. That's right - sonic mayhem cats - I'm running my Hagen and my 20thA together now and it's incredible. Don't y'all be doing this as this is now my tone...

Mo'z-Tonez....

Seriously very very pleased with my latest alchemical creation. It's now 'me'.

Peace Y'All,
Mojo

 

[lester]

Dude, unless someone has got a spare 8 grand laying around, for just the heads. I think your ok.