LTD Viper 1000 preliminary report

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Got a fair market deal on a used Viper 1000. I sold some blown D-120's to help fund the machine. The plan was for this to be my secondary stage guitar and maybe make some YouTube mod videos for next year. TLDR: it's a nice guitar for under a grand used. Even has a nice HSC. Here's the reverb pic of the guitar:
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The fretwork is nice. Action is low and buzz free. No buzzing or fretting out anywhere on the neck. I was worried the jumbo frets were going to be too large cause guys were calling them train tracks but they are smaller than 90's circa Fender medium jumbos which I found ridiculously massive. They are tall but not wide, nothing problematic at all. Thing plays really easy. The Macassar Ebony board is smooth and pretty dark. No tear outs or rough spots on it. The binding is well done. The radius is a little flat for my taste but I quickly adjusted to it and now it feels like home. The tuners are nice n smooth and the thing arrived in tune and stays in tune very well. The guitar is about 8lbs with just a hint of neck dive but nothing extreme. I think I'll be able to dial that out.

@NowYou'rePlayingWithPower it's definitely a very thin veneer top. Looking at the edge with a flashlight and analyzing the contours makes it pretty obvious cause it would've required an inch thick top then milled down to the final contours if it were real. A close look at the ESP USA viper shows that one to have a genuine solid maple top. I guess that's the extra 4500 bucks, lol

The resonance of this particular axe is amazing, it's like a Parker Fly. Very powerful in the bass and in the treble with the supplied strings. Not quite LP sustain but still very good. More top end bite than a Paul. I've never had a 24 fret guitar before, it's nice! Also, sometime back someone here told me ESP/LTD's "thin U" shape wasn't that thin. It's thin, but not stupid like a slim taper! Really nice considering the width of the board and it's flat radius. It's ideal. This thing even has a volute and is three piece so it should have great stability.

What I really don't like: body mounted humbuckers. I'm real particular about the adjustment of pickups and this arrangement is garbage. I have some rings on order and will get that sorted out soon. The Sentient neck pup seems nice, possibly a keeper, but the Pegasus seems kind of flat. The verdict is still out though until I get the rings because I generally keep my pickups very low and then raise the pole pieces. I couldn't get them low enough. I'm not really buying the claim these are a hot rod 59/JB set. They are different. I use light gauge flatwounds which I think will temper some of the monster low end thump and trebly zing of this guitar. It's a powerful beast.

The plan Is for pickup rings, probably a bridge pickup swap, a pickguard cause the finish seems to scratch much easier than my Edwards, and maybe a rewire of the controls into concentric vol/tone-vol/tone so I can work it like a four knob arrangement without having to drill holes. Any other suggestions or feedback I'm all ears. I think I found a guitar that will actually make a nice stage #2, especially for slow blues tunes and things like that.

Thanks for reading, be blessed! ☦️
 
Got a fair market deal on a used Viper 1000. I sold some blown D-120's to help fund the machine. The plan was for this to be my secondary stage guitar and maybe make some YouTube mod videos for next year. TLDR: it's a nice guitar for under a grand used. Even has a nice HSC. Here's the reverb pic of the guitar:
View attachment 368384

The fretwork is nice. Action is low and buzz free. No buzzing or fretting out anywhere on the neck. I was worried the jumbo frets were going to be too large cause guys were calling them train tracks but they are smaller than 90's circa Fender medium jumbos which I found ridiculously massive. They are tall but not wide, nothing problematic at all. Thing plays really easy. The Macassar Ebony board is smooth and pretty dark. No tear outs or rough spots on it. The binding is well done. The radius is a little flat for my taste but I quickly adjusted to it and now it feels like home. The tuners are nice n smooth and the thing arrived in tune and stays in tune very well. The guitar is about 8lbs with just a hint of neck dive but nothing extreme. I think I'll be able to dial that out.

@NowYou'rePlayingWithPower it's definitely a very thin veneer top. Looking at the edge with a flashlight and analyzing the contours makes it pretty obvious cause it would've required an inch thick top then milled down to the final contours if it were real. A close look at the ESP USA viper shows that one to have a genuine solid maple top. I guess that's the extra 4500 bucks, lol

The resonance of this particular axe is amazing, it's like a Parker Fly. Very powerful in the bass and in the treble with the supplied strings. Not quite LP sustain but still very good. More top end bite than a Paul. I've never had a 24 fret guitar before, it's nice! Also, sometime back someone here told me ESP/LTD's "thin U" shape wasn't that thin. It's thin, but not stupid like a slim taper! Really nice considering the width of the board and it's flat radius. It's ideal. This thing even has a volute and is three piece so it should have great stability.

What I really don't like: body mounted humbuckers. I'm real particular about the adjustment of pickups and this arrangement is garbage. I have some rings on order and will get that sorted out soon. The Sentient neck pup seems nice, possibly a keeper, but the Pegasus seems kind of flat. The verdict is still out though until I get the rings because I generally keep my pickups very low and then raise the pole pieces. I couldn't get them low enough. I'm not really buying the claim these are a hot rod 59/JB set. They are different. I use light gauge flatwounds which I think will temper some of the monster low end thump and trebly zing of this guitar. It's a powerful beast.

The plan Is for pickup rings, probably a bridge pickup swap, a pickguard cause the finish seems to scratch much easier than my Edwards, and maybe a rewire of the controls into concentric vol/tone-vol/tone so I can work it like a four knob arrangement without having to drill holes. Any other suggestions or feedback I'm all ears. I think I found a guitar that will actually make a nice stage #2, especially for slow blues tunes and things like that.

Thanks for reading, be blessed! ☦️


That's a beautiful axe! Love the colour. Ltd 1000 series guitars are perfect workhorses, I used to have a JH-600EC and it was pretty much flawless. What I really love about your axe is that it doesn't have a goofy model number inlay at the 12th fret.

I'd dissuade you from making mods like drilling holes for pickguard rings and adding a pick guard if you have to drill for that as well. It will just lower the value of the guitar, and also, (1) there may be another solution to your pole piece problem that you're not seeing right now and (2) that's such a beautiful guitar, it would be a crime to cover it up with a pick guard.
 
congrats man, beautiful guitar! Might want to just try removing some of the padding they have under the pickup. I have an EC where the stock height was too high for me as well, but cutting down some of the pad material behind them helped me get them where I wanted.
 
Got a fair market deal on a used Viper 1000. I sold some blown D-120's to help fund the machine. The plan was for this to be my secondary stage guitar and maybe make some YouTube mod videos for next year. TLDR: it's a nice guitar for under a grand used. Even has a nice HSC. Here's the reverb pic of the guitar:
View attachment 368384

The fretwork is nice. Action is low and buzz free. No buzzing or fretting out anywhere on the neck. I was worried the jumbo frets were going to be too large cause guys were calling them train tracks but they are smaller than 90's circa Fender medium jumbos which I found ridiculously massive. They are tall but not wide, nothing problematic at all. Thing plays really easy. The Macassar Ebony board is smooth and pretty dark. No tear outs or rough spots on it. The binding is well done. The radius is a little flat for my taste but I quickly adjusted to it and now it feels like home. The tuners are nice n smooth and the thing arrived in tune and stays in tune very well. The guitar is about 8lbs with just a hint of neck dive but nothing extreme. I think I'll be able to dial that out.

@NowYou'rePlayingWithPower it's definitely a very thin veneer top. Looking at the edge with a flashlight and analyzing the contours makes it pretty obvious cause it would've required an inch thick top then milled down to the final contours if it were real. A close look at the ESP USA viper shows that one to have a genuine solid maple top. I guess that's the extra 4500 bucks, lol

The resonance of this particular axe is amazing, it's like a Parker Fly. Very powerful in the bass and in the treble with the supplied strings. Not quite LP sustain but still very good. More top end bite than a Paul. I've never had a 24 fret guitar before, it's nice! Also, sometime back someone here told me ESP/LTD's "thin U" shape wasn't that thin. It's thin, but not stupid like a slim taper! Really nice considering the width of the board and it's flat radius. It's ideal. This thing even has a volute and is three piece so it should have great stability.

What I really don't like: body mounted humbuckers. I'm real particular about the adjustment of pickups and this arrangement is garbage. I have some rings on order and will get that sorted out soon. The Sentient neck pup seems nice, possibly a keeper, but the Pegasus seems kind of flat. The verdict is still out though until I get the rings because I generally keep my pickups very low and then raise the pole pieces. I couldn't get them low enough. I'm not really buying the claim these are a hot rod 59/JB set. They are different. I use light gauge flatwounds which I think will temper some of the monster low end thump and trebly zing of this guitar. It's a powerful beast.

The plan Is for pickup rings, probably a bridge pickup swap, a pickguard cause the finish seems to scratch much easier than my Edwards, and maybe a rewire of the controls into concentric vol/tone-vol/tone so I can work it like a four knob arrangement without having to drill holes. Any other suggestions or feedback I'm all ears. I think I found a guitar that will actually make a nice stage #2, especially for slow blues tunes and things like that.

Thanks for reading, be blessed! ☦️
Maaan, this is a sexy one! Great catch! 🔥
 
Awesome! Glad to see you found what you were after.
Thanks for the intel on the top, I'll add it to my spreadsheet :ROFLMAO:
HNGD!
 
Nice! And thanks for the reminder that I need to add pickup rings to my Chubtone. Not being able to change the pickup height has been my only gripe.
 
I'd dissuade you from making mods like drilling holes for pickguard rings and adding a pick guard if you have to drill for that as well. It will just lower the value of the guitar, and also, (1) there may be another solution to your pole piece problem that you're not seeing right now and (2) that's such a beautiful guitar, it would be a crime to cover it up with a pick guard.
congrats man, beautiful guitar! Might want to just try removing some of the padding they have under the pickup. I have an EC where the stock height was too high for me as well, but cutting down some of the pad material behind them helped me get them where I wanted.

I don't really care about the re-sale, maybe to my discredit. I like customizing stuff to my tastes and this is meant to be a gigging axe which means hard usage. I don't own any guitars with the stock pickups. I usually get my pickups dialed in and then make tiny adjustments over time, fine tuning them. Always irritating when a tech readjusts them to how they think they should be. The foam and direct body mount isn't gonna work out very well considering all that.

As for a pickguard, I use a metal finger pick and I am noticing this is not the tougher poly I'm used to. It's scratching easily, so a guard will keep the pick from chewing through the thin quilt maple veneer. I appreciate your inputs though!!!

Awesome! Glad to see you found what you were after.
Thanks for the intel on the top, I'll add it to my spreadsheet :ROFLMAO:
HNGD!
Hey MANY thanks for all the help and knowledge. It's an Indonesian model but damn it's a really nice guitar. I just got my LaBella's on there and adjusted the truss rod so it's settling in. I'm gonna get some pickup rings for it. I'll let you know how I like the Sentient. It seems promising but since I am not much of a pedal guy speakers and pickups are kind of where the cash goes so I'm picky. The Pegasus maybe less promising and I have a Lollar DB and a purple super distortion I can yank out of my LP copy to replace it with so not sure where I'm gonna go with the bridge. Contemplating some 50's wiring with concentric pots....this thing seems like it could become my main player.
 
I don't really care about the re-sale, maybe to my discredit. I like customizing stuff to my tastes and this is meant to be a gigging axe which means hard usage. I don't own any guitars with the stock pickups. I usually get my pickups dialed in and then make tiny adjustments over time, fine tuning them. Always irritating when a tech readjusts them to how they think they should be. The foam and direct body mount isn't gonna work out very well considering all that.

As for a pickguard, I use a metal finger pick and I am noticing this is not the tougher poly I'm used to. It's scratching easily, so a guard will keep the pick from chewing through the thin quilt maple veneer. I appreciate your inputs though!!!


Hey MANY thanks for all the help and knowledge. It's an Indonesian model but damn it's a really nice guitar. I just got my LaBella's on there and adjusted the truss rod so it's settling in. I'm gonna get some pickup rings for it. I'll let you know how I like the Sentient. It seems promising but since I am not much of a pedal guy speakers and pickups are kind of where the cash goes so I'm picky. The Pegasus maybe less promising and I have a Lollar DB and a purple super distortion I can yank out of my LP copy to replace it with so not sure where I'm gonna go with the bridge. Contemplating some 50's wiring with concentric pots....this thing seems like it could become my main player.
Sounds like someone is in 💕 💕 💕
 
Got a fair market deal on a used Viper 1000. I sold some blown D-120's to help fund the machine. The plan was for this to be my secondary stage guitar and maybe make some YouTube mod videos for next year. TLDR: it's a nice guitar for under a grand used. Even has a nice HSC. Here's the reverb pic of the guitar:
View attachment 368384

The fretwork is nice. Action is low and buzz free. No buzzing or fretting out anywhere on the neck. I was worried the jumbo frets were going to be too large cause guys were calling them train tracks but they are smaller than 90's circa Fender medium jumbos which I found ridiculously massive. They are tall but not wide, nothing problematic at all. Thing plays really easy. The Macassar Ebony board is smooth and pretty dark. No tear outs or rough spots on it. The binding is well done. The radius is a little flat for my taste but I quickly adjusted to it and now it feels like home. The tuners are nice n smooth and the thing arrived in tune and stays in tune very well. The guitar is about 8lbs with just a hint of neck dive but nothing extreme. I think I'll be able to dial that out.

@NowYou'rePlayingWithPower it's definitely a very thin veneer top. Looking at the edge with a flashlight and analyzing the contours makes it pretty obvious cause it would've required an inch thick top then milled down to the final contours if it were real. A close look at the ESP USA viper shows that one to have a genuine solid maple top. I guess that's the extra 4500 bucks, lol

The resonance of this particular axe is amazing, it's like a Parker Fly. Very powerful in the bass and in the treble with the supplied strings. Not quite LP sustain but still very good. More top end bite than a Paul. I've never had a 24 fret guitar before, it's nice! Also, sometime back someone here told me ESP/LTD's "thin U" shape wasn't that thin. It's thin, but not stupid like a slim taper! Really nice considering the width of the board and it's flat radius. It's ideal. This thing even has a volute and is three piece so it should have great stability.

What I really don't like: body mounted humbuckers. I'm real particular about the adjustment of pickups and this arrangement is garbage. I have some rings on order and will get that sorted out soon. The Sentient neck pup seems nice, possibly a keeper, but the Pegasus seems kind of flat. The verdict is still out though until I get the rings because I generally keep my pickups very low and then raise the pole pieces. I couldn't get them low enough. I'm not really buying the claim these are a hot rod 59/JB set. They are different. I use light gauge flatwounds which I think will temper some of the monster low end thump and trebly zing of this guitar. It's a powerful beast.

The plan Is for pickup rings, probably a bridge pickup swap, a pickguard cause the finish seems to scratch much easier than my Edwards, and maybe a rewire of the controls into concentric vol/tone-vol/tone so I can work it like a four knob arrangement without having to drill holes. Any other suggestions or feedback I'm all ears. I think I found a guitar that will actually make a nice stage #2, especially for slow blues tunes and things like that.

Thanks for reading, be blessed! ☦️

Great score! Congrats and HNGD! Love the shade of purple too!
 
LTD Vipers are Awesome. I have had a couple that I picked up around 2008. I put em up against Anything in my arsenal including my old school gibsons.
 
I love LTD's. Regarding mid-priced instruments, I've had the best luck with them. Way more consistent than PRS SE, Epiphone, etc. All of the ones I've had have been solid at the very least. I've had a couple that could rival much more expensive guitars.
 
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