Lynch gear on lynch mob album

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What gear (amps) did George Lynch use on the Lynch mob album? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynch_Mob_(album)
It sounds very different from the Wicked Sensation album and I think is has its own cool vibe.
There has got to be some doubling or multiple miking going on on the lead sounds, and the phaseyness makes it stand out in the mix.

Is there anyone that has any info regarding this?
 
I re-posted this from GL's old site regarding Lynch Mob studio gear, but the GL forum is gone. Here it is:"Sometimes you try things and it doesn't work. So you fall back and do things that you're more familiar with, which is just going straight-ahead balls-out," George said of the recording for the second Lynch Mob album. Simply titled, "Lynch Mob," George returned to a more simplistic approach to recording his guitar sound in 1992.

I bought two 50-watt Marshall plexi's in Japan six months earlier. When they got delivered, they sounded great. That's what on the record. I didn't use anything but the plexi Marshalls and a Soldano, which are the obvious things to use. Using the Marshall and Soldano setups in conjunction with each other in an A/B situation, "...the Marshall gave it that warm fluid tone and the Soldano had a little bit more of the bite and crunch. Together they sound real nice," George described. In the front end, he brought in his Ibanez Tube Scremaer TS-808 to goose the amp's input a little.

Other pedals present came out of what was known as "George's Toy Box." An assortment of pedals made their way onto the floor like the Sustainiac, a Boss GE-7 e.q. and a Vox chrometop wah pedal. In summary, George's tone is consistent throughout the entire record. He would change his style of playing per each individual song, but refused to alter the gear in any form. "How many times have people gone into the studio, had something nice, changed it and gone for something different and never got it back? George recounts. Barriers were put up forming a little room in the corner of the studio where George positioned himself to record. "I had 17 guitars back there and all these pedals and this huge amount of stuff. Nobody wanted to go back there. I had cups and junk. I said, 'Do not clean this up.' (Producer) Keith Olsen was going nuts, saying, 'Just let them come in and clean it, George.' I said, 'No, that'll spoil it.'"

Lynch Mob 1992 Live gear:On tour with George for the 1992 Lynch Mob tour was similar to what was in the studio. He had aquired two Marshall plexi amps from Japan just prior to the recording of the second Lynch Mob self-titled album. Seeking that sound but with a little more balls, the primary Marshall on this tour was a '72 Marshall Super Lead with the plexi faceplate. While other Marshall 100-watt heads (JCM 800s, and other early 70s Marshall Super Leads) were to accompany him, this was the primary one. Also on board were two Soldano SLO 100-watt heads (one for backup). These were two of four made with a special depth knob and covered in snakeskin-printed tolex. These heads were the primary source of searing gain and shattering crunch. The two amp setups had signals going to a new kind of speaker cabinet made by Genz Benz. Made in Phoenix, AZ, these cabinets were designed to deliver sound in a more forward projection via internal front-to-rear speaker baffles. Just as a backline wall of them were set up onstage, the actual functioning rig was at the far left-hand side of the stage. Switching for the two amps was done via an A/B/Y footswitch that allowed George to go from either amp or to use both in conjunction with each other. As stated during the recording of the album, George used various distortion/overdrive pedals to juice up the input of the guitar to the amps. Again, the Tube Screamer, among others, would be there to provide a push into the amp inputs.Just like the previous tour, the rack containing signal processing was on this tour. Keeping coloration to a minimum, most of the use of these items was simply to clarify the guitar tone. The Lexicon PCM 70 or the Roland SDE3000 were on hand for delay and chorus. To clear up the signal was a BBE Sonic Maximizer 422.
 
Cool, thanks!

Hmm, sustainiac pedal - is it the one where you put a box on the guitar head and it works as a sustainer pickup?
I wonder if thats part of making his lead tone sound so resonant on this album... I first thougt it was some nearly out of phase dual miking or perhaps a resonant filter but perhaps it is the sustainiac.
 
I think the gear wasn't too far off from the WS album, but the recording and production sure was. Very, very different sound to the 2nd album, but still a great one. If you've ever heard the B sides from the 2nd album (Love Finds A Way, Love In Your Eyes), the guitars sound more aggressive like the WS recordings.
 
sahlomonic":1t19zhhj said:
I think the gear wasn't too far off from the WS album, but the recording and production sure was. Very, very different sound to the 2nd album, but still a great one. If you've ever heard the B sides from the 2nd album (Love Finds A Way, Love In Your Eyes), the guitars sound more aggressive like the WS recordings.

I don't think I have heard those. Any links to locations?
 
I think it is all production and mic placement for those sessions really. Move the mic a little closer to the cone and bam, definition. Marshalls and SLO's will cut. I honestly think we spend so much time blowing our loads on tones that are largely the work of producers, studio acoustics, and mic placement.
 
Kapo_Polenton":3dgt0ms3 said:
I think it is all production and mic placement for those sessions really. Move the mic a little closer to the cone and bam, definition. Marshalls and SLO's will cut. I honestly think we spend so much time blowing our loads on tones that are largely the work of producers, studio acoustics, and mic placement.
This. Great point. I know this has been stated before...but you just can't expect any single amp to recreate a great recorded tone. Which means of course that we're all chasing our tails. Was listening to "The Pot" the other day...might be my favorite recorded tone ever. Of course, that's like 7 amps blended lol....
 
Racerxrated":3d7byt8i said:
Kapo_Polenton":3d7byt8i said:
I think it is all production and mic placement for those sessions really. Move the mic a little closer to the cone and bam, definition. Marshalls and SLO's will cut. I honestly think we spend so much time blowing our loads on tones that are largely the work of producers, studio acoustics, and mic placement.
This. Great point. I know this has been stated before...but you just can't expect any single amp to recreate a great recorded tone. Which means of course that we're all chasing our tails. Was listening to "The Pot" the other day...might be my favorite recorded tone ever. Of course, that's like 7 amps blended lol....


Totally , they throw up tons of mics and diff cabs and go with what sounds best. they have the room to do this. Then they EQ it to their taste. I bet 3 diff producers starting from scratch would come up with three different "tones" from the same amp and artist. Which is why no two albums sound exactly the same. I am personally done chasing tones. I just want it to sound good to my ear now. If I want 80's, I reach for the reverb knob... that simple.
 
When I want 80s I reach for reverb, delay, and a parametric eq before the amp and a graphic in the loop...you can get almost any 80s tone this way...
 
I'm glad somebody else digs that album and the guitar tone as much as I do! Robert Mason really nailed the vocals on that one! I'm curious, for those that know the album... Which amp/effects setup do you think he probably used for "When Darkness Calls"? It's my favorite Lynch solo ever - his best one in my opinion. Totally off the cuff, and totally rippin'.
 
Yeah Mason is the real star of that album. That guy's voice is amazing and still relevant today. It fits for modern rock as well and bluesy rock.
 
fek":2mqt7o8x said:
sahlomonic":2mqt7o8x said:
I think the gear wasn't too far off from the WS album, but the recording and production sure was. Very, very different sound to the 2nd album, but still a great one. If you've ever heard the B sides from the 2nd album (Love Finds A Way, Love In Your Eyes), the guitars sound more aggressive like the WS recordings.

I don't think I have heard those. Any links to locations?

Love Finds A Way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHtsfTorDUg

Love In Your Eyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O3VKa8cos8

Love these 2 songs~ :thumbsup:
 
ONI killed it on WS, and the new cd Sun Red Sun too, but I always lean towards masons voice more. Wish Oni would do some of those live, there's some killer songs on the second cd
 
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