Need some advice from Diezel owners!

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Hey all- I'm jonesing for a Diezel and need some inout on which way to go. ATM, I play mostly metal and really like the "thunk" that Diezels seem to provide. I had thought that I wanted a VH-4, then started leaning toward the Herbert. But after hearing the D Moll I really dig it as well.

I have several Marshally heads already (BE 100, CAA OD 100 SE+) and a Mark V, but theres something that makes me feel like I need to have a Diezel. Gassing hard.

I just need some thoughts on VH4 vs D Moll vs Herbert.

Any and all input is appreciated form the RT family.

Thanks!
 
Can't go wrong with ANY Diezel amp, seriously. May guys on here will attest to that.

If you are interested in getting "Diezel" tone, VH4 and Herbert kick, period.

Dmoll is new and looks awesome as well. Need to hear more clips and try it myself to make a resonable comment in that one.

Personally, Herbert is my #1 and it's pure :rock:
 
If posible give them all a try.
There is a difference in all the diezels so its personal prefference.
I have a Herbert, although i havent played it for about 6 months or so due to work this is the amp that will stay till the end
Beautifull cleans, crushing rythem and a singing lead
 
All kill for metal, it's purely a matter of preference. VH4 is razor-sharp and tight. Herbert is a bit more forgiving but has this huge, tight bottom end and is definitely the most "brutal" of the range. The Hagen is a mixture between the two!

-C
 
Your question, to the OP, is one that has kept this subforum alive and hostile for years :lol: :LOL:

There are many camps within the Diezel lineage. And many owners of either or are very devoted to their either or. It's not often you'll have a Herbert owner go off about the virtues of anything other than the Herbert. And the same goes for the VH4. Within the family, the VH4 and Herbert create the most divisiveness. They're both reigning kinds at what the do. Which is better? Only you'll know that - but as I've often said, stick me on an island with either and I wouldn't complain.

The Hagen is a relatively new entrant into the Diezel heavies, and one that needs a serious looksee. D-Moll is the latest, and it's awesome, but it was also designed to be a bit more price conscious in its retail; roll into it the feel of the now-discontinued Einstein, offer MIDI control which the Einy didn't have, and offer the mid-cut EQ shaping that the Herbert has. Where it sits sonically in amongst them all, the jury is still out. But it's a great amp - and people love it.

The VH4 is surgically tight, and records incredibly well. Takes stomps like none other. The original Diezel signature tone. Notorious for its Ch.3 - but all its channels are dynamite. Cleans are percussive piano like, everything else is to be expected - very versatile. One of the most common amps found in recording studios worldwide.

The Herbert is a HUGE amp in Asia and other parts of the globe, monstrous 6 valve amp, well known for its mid-cut Ch.2 "brootz". A little looser of a player than the VH4, and has chimy'er cleans. Lots of chitter chatter about this amp not cutting through the mix - I say "learn how to EQ". Mid-cut is not your friend in a live environment but it sounds wicked recorded. Awesome beast of an amp - AND - you can interchange/intermix the power valves in pairs to mix up the sound.

Hagen is a 4 channel chainsaw of an amp. It purrs in the "brootz" department. Takes drop-tunings with ease. It's got the VH4 signature sound with more of an open, gnawing, burbling decay to the notes. It's very aggressive and organic sounding, not hi-fi. I have the Hagen, I've had many different VH4 and VH4Ss, and experience with the Herbert. The Hagen is a keeper - I'm now back to either getting the VH4 or the Herbert, but it'll likely be the VH4. The Hagen is outrageous. It needs some serious consideration. Great cleans, great raunchy crunch, SICK Ch.3, and a very hot, searing, toneful Ch.4. Awesome amp.

Hope this helps.
Uncle Mo

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Thanks for all the replies!!!!! My challenge is that it is difficult to find a spot that has all of them to play and even more difficult to find the time! Thanks again!
 
as MO said... these same questions have kept us posting for years LOL.

you cant go wrong with any choice.
 
What type of sound are you looking for? The new D-moll does clean, mid gain and crushing and it does them all damn well!
 
If DHL will quit fucking around, my D-Moll should get delivered tomorrow.
 
I think the VH4 is the best of all Diezel in one amp. It's the one I kept...
 
racerevlon":2ndz7vhn said:
I think the VH4 is the best of all Diezel in one amp. It's the one I kept...
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Only if it has the Billy Blades mod...
 
I have tried every single one of the diezels and I ended up buying the Hagen.
I've also used different guitars while testing them including Caparison, Mayones 7, Esp Eclipse, Blackmachine B2 and a B8.
I have to say that the Hagen appealed to me the best. At low volumes it sounded a bit more fizzy than the others. Once you turn the channel volume up that thing turns into a panzer that rips apart every molecular existence on this planet.
It s a killer amp but I would highly recommend to visit your local Diezel dealer and try them out. Tastes and preferences differ from one another.
 
Listen to Uncle Mo.

I sold my Herbert to get a Hagen. I miss the Herbie, but I'll keep the Hagen. Would love to try a VH4 someday...
 
Pulled the trigger on a Herbert with Brad. Will be here next week...........and the waiting begins......
 
You should not be dissapointed.

HRC51, greetings to another Blackmachiner (assumption made from your avatar).
 
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