Need your help with the Einstein

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Hei,
recently i got the opportunity to test some amps Bogner XTC, Shiva, Elmwood Modena 90, Mesa Roadster, Lonestar, Cornford MkII. The amp that really blew my mind was a Diezel Einstein combo. Loved the sound. So i will buy one. My question is now 50 Watt or 100 Watt. Is the 100 Watt overkill? I play mostly smaller stages and want to be able to use the amp at home too. Do i need the extra headroom or is thee 50 Watt version enough for my needs or would you prefer the 100 Watt version? What cab would you recommend? I thought of a Diezel cab, Bogner or Marshall cab. Any recommendations?

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i would recommend the einstein 100 watt with a diezel 4x12 fl g12k100

100 watt because its only a few cents more and you cann immediately take out 2 tubes and have a 100 watt head. so without considering headromm / loudness or anything it makes more sense to buy the 100 watt version!

i would take a frontloaded cab because of its tightness and attack, take a look at the peter stapfer interview on youtube, he explains everything about the new cabs and speakers.
 
"you cann immediately take out 2 tubes "

peter does not recommend this.....
 
I went with the 100, for two reasons:

1. The decibel difference between a 100 watt head and a 50 watt head is something negligible like 7dbs, which will make really no discernible difference in apparent volume.

2. The tube swapping capability of the 100. You can run 2 El-34s and 2 6L6s, or 2 KT-88s and two 6550s etc. and so on, which is a really cool feature.

The 100 watts vs. 50 watts really doesn't make a difference when the master volume on the amp is this good.

I would go with the 100, that's what I did.
 
slate":2pf7w8a7 said:
"you cann immediately take out 2 tubes "

peter does not recommend this.....
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im REALLY REALLY sure you can! just tak out the inner 2 tubes or the two ones on the sides

i read this really quite a lot and im sure having seen it written by peter himself.
correct me if im wrong but im really shure.
 
Go with the 50 watt, it's a proven winner for the small venue and if mic'd properly you can play anywhere. Don't take out the 2 tubes like people are suggesting. Peter Diezel himself says to stay away from this, I think he knows what he's talking about. Maybe that's why he makes both 50 and 100 watt heads/combo's.
 
Blecky":avsv51eg said:
Hei,
recently i got the opportunity to test some amps Bogner XTC, Shiva, Elmwood Modena 90, Mesa Roadster, Lonestar, Cornford MkII. The amp that really blew my mind was a Diezel Einstein combo. Loved the sound. So i will buy one.

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I think, if you loved the sound of this particular amp, you should go with it. So you don't have to worry about additional speakers, etc. Of course it depends on what kind of music you are playing, size of venues, etc. This amp is extremly versatile.
If you go with the 100W, I don't think it's necessary to pull the tubes. The master works really good, and even on low volumes you have very good sound and dynamics.

cheers
Chris
 
Get the combo you liked or the 100 watt head. The Einstein has an incredible master volume, well..two master volumes and when you use MV2 you can get whisper volumes and great sound at 0300 hrs when everyone is sleeping. :thumbsup:
 
I have played the VH4 and Herbert for several years. I received an Einstein Combo 50 watter 2+ years ago and found that it serves my use very well in all settings.

I play in a 6 piece group in small to medium size venues. If I desire more volume, I simply add a 2x12 Diezel cab and it is far more then enough power, including the headroom for clean playing. Actually, the combo can handle it all by itself without any extra cabs quite easily.

In most situations, the clean at 50 watts is easily enough for clean playing.
If I play in a large place, we are mic'd up and the volume of the amp is then not important at all, as the sound man requests that the amp be turned way down, so that I can hear my playing through stage monitors instead of the amp. The compensated out on the Einstein is amazingly accurate sounding. No need for mic'ing up.

If you were forced to play a large stage with no in-house P.A. to mic you up, the amp can handle 2 4x12's easily and sounds great when you get to turn it way up.

I have found that after playing for 52+ years, that now, I am not using any amp over 50 watts and mostly amps as low as 20 watts with a 1x12 or 2x12 and it is absolutely more volume then I really need. Our band plays commercial hard rock and the Einstein combo is far more then needed without adding extra cabs.

If you really need 100 watts, your band must be playing at horrific levels. I thought that loud playing through 100 watt monsters went out when P.A. systems became more refined years ago. Club owners have been telling bands to constantly turn down.

Many places today don't want playing that is anywhere near that loud, no matter what type of music you are doing especially if the rooms are not friggin' huge. I can see using 100 watters for arenas and extremely large outdoor venues, if that is what you play most of the time.

I have found that you can get more from turning up a 50 watt amp then having to watch your volume using 100 watters. The lower watt amps get to work in their power range and sound great.
 
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