New owner of an Uberschall (REV-2)...I get it now!

[SLOgriff]

Just picked up an Uberschall Rev-2 (^-+) (#204) and must say that I get it now! Meaning, I understand why the REV-2 camp feels the way they do about this version. I also have a newer Rev-Blue (which I've been loving lately!!). After plugging in and playing the Rev-2, I can now understand the "sag" and spongyness in the notes and darker tone that guys refer to. I don't like the term "looser" because that term reminds me of Mesa's. This amp has punch and sag like an XTC meets an SLO type tone. It's still tight with articulation, but it's more in the "feel" of the amp while playing where you feel the sag and movement of the notes, especially for lead playing! I turned the gain down to 7 O'clock on the dial, cranked the master, and it had a killer Marshall/Soldano tone and feel as well. Reminded me of an SLO actually.

The Clean channel is similar to the Rev-Blue but has a little more bass response. Effects loop on the Rev-Blue is better and more transparent, but the Rev-2 loop still works great.

Bought it locally off Craigslist......Very happy to have another Uberschall with a different tone and feel. I LOVE Bogners and LOVE the Uberschall's!!

 

[TheSneakyTruth]

Awesome dude!

After playing an old jcm that had been variac'd down, I completely understand how natural and musical proper sag feels.

I'm not sure if you have followed my previous thread, but it's comments like these that make me feel like passing on the blue for a 2 was the right choice. I'm however still searching for a good one that someone is willing to ship to Australia...

 

[SLOgriff]

Yeah, I have both now and they are different flavors for sure. It's the Uberschall tone but just different.... You can always get a Rev Blue but a nice Rev 2 is hard to come by. Hang on to it and enjoy. Also surprised how well it sounded cranked up on a standard Marshall 1960 4x12 with 75's.

 

[leib10]

Enjoy the sag, compression, and dark tonality! It's a pretty unique amp!

 

[SLOgriff]

Enjoy the sag, compression, and dark tonality! It's a pretty unique amp!

Been playing it non stop (not true, but almost) since yesterday. Came with JJ E34L's and all chinese 12ax7's. I didn't even check the bias or anything because it just sounds right...why mess with it!?!? Had to take it totally apart as it was FILTHY!! As dirty as it was, the chasis is just about MINT condition! All clean and swapped out the black/cloth headshell for an extra "Wheat Grill" headshell I had in my closet. Looks great!

 

[TheSneakyTruth]

Those cloth headshells definitely look a world of class. Jealous of it all man haha

 

[russellconner]

Congrats, the Rev 2 definitely has its own thing. It just seems to have a very interactive feel/response. Ive been loving mine since '04!

 

[SLOgriff]

Those cloth headshells definitely look a world of class. Jealous of it all man haha

Thanks! Cloth is cool....but the metal grills are more industrial looking!

Congrats, the Rev 2 definitely has its own thing. It just seems to have a very interactive feel/response. Ive been loving mine since '04!

Cool!! So you are the original owner of your Rev 2?? What number is it?

 

[russellconner]

Mine is SN 340, which appears as "triangle" "+" "-". Mine seems to be a fairly typical Rev. 2...leather handle, revised gain taper, metal grill.

 

[Piero the Guitarero]

congrats - your nickname should be changed

UBERgriff

"übergriff" (german) means -> encroachment (engl.)

 

[SLOgriff]

congrats - your nickname should be changed

UBERgriff

"übergriff" (german) means -> encroachment (engl.)

Haha...yeah, that would be more appropriate these days!

Mine is SN 340, which appears as "triangle" "+" "-". Mine seems to be a fairly typical Rev. 2...leather handle, revised gain taper, metal grill.

Thanks for the info. I talked to Charlie (Bogner) today and he thinks there were about (200) Rev 2's made. Mine was built October 2002.

 

[maddnotez]

congrats - your nickname should be changed

UBERgriff

"übergriff" (german) means -> encroachment (engl.)

Haha...yeah, that would be more appropriate these days!

Mine is SN 340, which appears as "triangle" "+" "-". Mine seems to be a fairly typical Rev. 2...leather handle, revised gain taper, metal grill.

Thanks for the info. I talked to Charlie (Bogner) today and he thinks there were about (200) Rev 2's made. Mine was built October 2002.

Confused by this. He said only 200 made but Russell's is #340??

Lost me.

But the rev.2 is a dream amp, something about it is just amazing.

 

[TheSneakyTruth]

My guess is that the serial numbers start with the Original green boarded rev 1. There was probably 100+ of those made, which then offsets the start of the Rev 2 serial numbers by 100 or so. It's only a guess though, I'd really have no idea.

 

[SLOgriff]

My guess is that the serial numbers start with the Original green boarded rev 1. There was probably 100+ of those made, which then offsets the start of the Rev 2 serial numbers by 100 or so. It's only a guess though, I'd really have no idea.

This!

First run Uberschall's started at 001 (- - /) and continued sequentially. I've heard around 100 original Ubers were made. Serial numbers/signs continued on with the Rev 2's. It would be interesting to know which of the Rev Blue's had the serial signs as well, before switching to numbers....that would give a better idea of how many Rev 2's were made.

 

[TheSneakyTruth]

My guess is that the serial numbers start with the Original green boarded rev 1. There was probably 100+ of those made, which then offsets the start of the Rev 2 serial numbers by 100 or so. It's only a guess though, I'd really have no idea.

This!

First run Uberschall's started at 001 (- - /) and continued sequentially. I've heard around 100 original Ubers were made. Serial numbers/signs continued on with the Rev 2's. It would be interesting to know which of the Rev Blue's had the serial signs as well, before switching to numbers....that would give a better idea of how many Rev 2's were made.

Well I purchased 477 which was a blue, it was also in symbols with a hardwired power cord. Not 100% sure on the years unfortunately.

 

[SLOgriff]

My guess is that the serial numbers start with the Original green boarded rev 1. There was probably 100+ of those made, which then offsets the start of the Rev 2 serial numbers by 100 or so. It's only a guess though, I'd really have no idea.

This!

First run Uberschall's started at 001 (- - /) and continued sequentially. I've heard around 100 original Ubers were made. Serial numbers/signs continued on with the Rev 2's. It would be interesting to know which of the Rev Blue's had the serial signs as well, before switching to numbers....that would give a better idea of how many Rev 2's were made.

Well I purchased 477 which was a blue, it was also in symbols with a hardwired power cord. Not 100% sure on the years unfortunately.

It would be cool to get the actual count. I asked Charlie (Bogner C.S.) recently and he said "about 200" when I asked him how many Rev 2's were made. He's probably tired of me calling...maybe someone else could call up Bogner HQ and press for some true numbers and total amps built.

 

[TheSneakyTruth]

There'd be around that number. I'm sure a lot of have since been decommissioned and/or broken or not well kept, effectively reducing the total number of rev 2's in circulation and use.

 

[leib10]

Very true. I'm surprised that there are that few of them in existence... makes me want to take extra special care of mine!

 

[maddnotez]

Jesus..so there's really only 200 rev. 2's ?? Kind of disheartening since I'd love to have one someday.

I might give them a call for you guys. There should be some kind of list floating around.

 

[leib10]

Jesus..so there's really only 200 rev. 2's ?? Kind of disheartening since I'd love to have one someday.

I might give them a call for you guys. There should be some kind of list floating around.

They go up for sale from time to time... I got mine on eBay for way lower than the usual going price.