"No More Tears" solo

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I've been on a big Wylde kick since putting the EMGs in this Edwards and always wanted to learn this solo.



Using a Wylde preset I made in the AxeFX with an SPX90 recreation and the delay mix assigned to an expression pedal. There's so much little feel stuff in this solo I'd have to practice it way more than I have interest in doing to pull it off 100% like Zakk does and shit, he doesn't even play it the same way every time. Definitely one that makes you grab into the strings, which is pretty much everything he did back in the day.
 
I tried that when I was 18 and knew I would never be worthy of that stuff.. Nice job on it.
 
El Larry said:
That solo is the one that I first really was floored by as a kid! Well done!
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Same! The first time I heard Zakk was on “Perry Mason” when Ozzmosis came out and I was just blown away by how energetic the playing was, I had no clue what pinch harmonics were or anything, I had maybe been playing a year, if that. I rented the Live And Loud VHS at Blockbuster and that’s when I first heard NMT, it just blew my fucking mind. The ferocity in his playing and those damn pinch harmonics!
 
I feel like i gotta learn this now. that looks fun to play. sounds great!
also, ozzmosis was a really good record... perry mason and some of those other songs aged pretty well imo.
 
JimAnsell said:
I feel like i gotta learn this now. that looks fun to play. sounds great!
also, ozzmosis was a really good record... perry mason and some of those other songs aged pretty well imo.
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It’s definitely fun to play and gives your fingers a good workout, you’ve gotta dig into those strings for pretty much everything after the slower stuff in the very beginning and especially the double stops. I suppose if you’ve been doing the pentatonic shred thing for a while, it’ll come a lot easier but I got tripped up on the fast lick right after the doublestops and before the sustained higher notes; it’s a typical blues lick but the speed of it was a bitch. And playing it on a Les Paul, the hardest fuckin’ part is getting to the last note because the neck heel. I had takes better than that one but I kept fucking up the last fucking note. :ROFLMAO:

This is the backing track I used-


There’s plenty of tabs out there for the song, but I mainly used these-




Love that isolated vid, that’s easily my favorite Marshall tone ever. I’ve never heard hair like that on any other guitar track I’ve ever heard isolated, or any guitar I’ve ever heard in person for that matter.
 
Dig it. Well done!

For some reason I have always struggled to cleanly pick that type of phrase Zakk uses at the end of that solo. He uses a similar phrase in the Fire In The Sky solo too. Love that run.
 
fek said:
Dig it. Well done!

For some reason I have always struggled to cleanly pick that type of phrase Zakk uses at the end of that solo. He uses a similar phrase in the Fire In The Sky solo too. Love that run.
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I think you may be talking about that lick at the end with a 2 string sweep pattern. Many guys play it as just groups of 3 notes since they don’t know to do that sweep to get the 4th one at the end. Zakk himself doesn’t consistently play that part too cleanly. That extra note, making it groups of 4’s, is what adds the cool effect of going from 3’s before to 4’s and also gives a more continuous, fluid vibe to that section
 
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braintheory said:
I think you may be talking about that lick at the end with a 2 string sweep pattern. Many guys play it as just groups of 3 notes since they don’t know to do that sweep to get the 4th one at the end. Zakk himself doesn’t consistently play that part too cleanly. That extra note, making it groups of 4’s, is what adds the cool effect of going from 3’s before to 4’s and also gives a more continuous, fluid vibe to that section
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Yeah, I use economy picking for a lot of my own stuff that’d be played similarly, but I played this picking ‘inside’ the strings, down up down up down up and thinking of it as triplets, pulling off the high A# to F# then picking the D on the B string. When I play it cleanly, I’m heavily relying on both my picking hand and the middle finger of my fretting hand to mute the notes as quick as possible without choking them out. If the lick started on the D note, I’d economy/sweep it, but I’m so stuck in my ways with picking it’s all but impossible for me to not re-work something someone else did.
 
RevDrucifer said:
Yeah, I use economy picking for a lot of my own stuff that’d be played similarly, but I played this picking ‘inside’ the strings, down up down up down up and thinking of it as triplets, pulling off the high A# to F# then picking the D on the B string. When I play it cleanly, I’m heavily relying on both my picking hand and the middle finger of my fretting hand to mute the notes as quick as possible without choking them out. If the lick started on the D note, I’d economy/sweep it, but I’m so stuck in my ways with picking it’s all but impossible for me to not re-work something someone else did.
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The pull off though from that A# buys you time to get to the 2 string sweep. It’s just pulling off from the the A# (18th fret) to F natural (13th fret), then 2 string sweep the 15th fret on B string (D) to 13th fret E string (F), same pattern up 2 frets. The solo from Tornado of Souls uses the same idea in that one spot (another one the best solos). The combination of the groups of 3’s all being picked by Zakk & then going to those groups of 4’s all legato (via pull off’s & sweeps) has imo a very cool effect that really closes out his solo well
 
braintheory said:
The pull off though from that A# buys you time to get to the 2 string sweep. It’s just pulling off from the the A# (18th fret) to F natural (13th fret), then 2 string sweep the 15th fret on B string (D) to 13th fret E string (F), same pattern up 2 frets. The solo from Tornado of Souls uses the same idea in that one spot (another one the best solos). The combination of the groups of 3’s all being picked by Zakk & then going to those groups of 4’s all legato (via pull off’s & sweeps) has imo a very cool effect that really closes out his solo well
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Yeah, it’s the actual sweep part that jacks me up, for some reason I completely fail to be able to sweep down for a 2-string sweep/economy pick, but picking upwards for the same thing isn’t an issue. I can do larger sweeps with more strings just fine with downstrokes, it’s just those 2-notes back and forth, downpicking, that fucks me up.

My inspiration for drilling myself on picking or even learning other people’s stuff is extremely, extremely limited. I’m the worst when it comes to any kind of disciplined practice in general, once I get past the initial “OH I love learning a new instrument!” Once I hit a certain point, I’m perfectly fine floating in my own mediocrity. :ROFLMAO:
 
RevDrucifer said:
Yeah, it’s the actual sweep part that jacks me up, for some reason I completely fail to be able to sweep down for a 2-string sweep/economy pick, but picking upwards for the same thing isn’t an issue. I can do larger sweeps with more strings just fine with downstrokes, it’s just those 2-notes back and forth, downpicking, that fucks me up.

My inspiration for drilling myself on picking or even learning other people’s stuff is extremely, extremely limited. I’m the worst when it comes to any kind of disciplined practice in general, once I get past the initial “OH I love learning a new instrument!” Once I hit a certain point, I’m perfectly fine floating in my own mediocrity. :ROFLMAO:
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Yeah I get all that. I also find sweeping up easier, but on the downward part of sweeps I often have a tendency to rush it & not control it as well. I’m kinda the opposite of you in that I find these 2 string sweep patterns like No More Tears, Tornado of Souls or Rising Force (Yngwie) to be pretty easy & the 3 string ones as well, but the 5 string sweeps like in Jason Becker’s Serrano are very challenging for me. I’m more of a classical guitarist anyway, so I wouldn’t say I do any of this stuff that great haha, but even Becker & most players I’ve heard don’t play those 5 string patterns with all even spacing between the notes (they also often rush a lot the downward parts)
 
Remember when I first heard the Miracle Man solo in ‘89 and it was definitely a moment of “yup, this MF’r here to play”
 
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