Pedals: OD pedal and Delay pedal suggestions...

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Alright.....help me out here...

I have a Boss ME-50 multieffec-multipedal unit.... so far it sounds nice, but I have a problem with it. As you know some effects (like time based fx) work better in the loop, some other specially OD pedals work better infront of the amp. I split the ME-50 signal to loop/front. I have to simply pick one. So, since the unit has some very nice fx (rotor pedal/delays/chorus/flanger/ etc...) I'll keep runing the ME-50 in the loop for those fx..... but I wanna et an OD pedal for my "blues" needs. So far my Einstein is AMAZING at doing everything I want/need....specially with the footswitchable modes mod Duesentrieb did for me. but still I have the volume issue:

If you set the volume in ch.1 mode 1 to, lets say 1:00 then when you footswitch to mode 2 it's too loud, and even louder whe you switch to mode 3.... So in some "slower" songs I can control this volume thing with my gtr volume knob. but in some more upbeat songs, it's just too hard, specially if the songs have lots of single notes and weird phrasing.

A) is there a way to "tame" the volume on ch.1 between the modes? so that it sounds "somewhat" similar in volume?


b) Now, the pedal suggestion question:

Which OD pedals do you guys recommend? I don't need a BR00TALZZZ pedal, just a nice warm od pedal for that gritty clean ch. break up type of tone.

So far I like:

Fulltone Fulldrive II (but kind of pricey)
Boss Blues Driver
Mod my old DS-1 (it's not working properly but if someone here knows how to mod it I could send it to you...I'm in Spain btw)
 
I play a T-REX Moeller with my Einstein Combo. I think it's really great for the lower gain range, you can mix the clean signal with the distortion which is just great to get some underlying dirt in the sound. Also it has an additional clean boost, which does not color your sound at all. I use this also to compensate the volumes between the modes.
 
I am using a NAudio Firesound Mk.II. Has 3 switchable (and very useable) modes. One of this is the one that I particularly like - it provides loads of clean boost and sounds great. The others provide quite nice overdrive and distortion modes. It's in the EUR 100-120 range or somethin'.
That's the bulder site (has some samples):
https://www.myspace.com/naudiocustomguitarelectronics

As for delay I am using Eventide TimeFactor. The best - IMNHO :-) Pristine delay, lots of programmability (while even the presets are useable). The other that I considered was the T-REX Replica, but was rather pricey for the features offered and TimeFactor had stereo line in/out allowing for studio use, that made it to me. Soundwise they both sound great to me.
 
MXR GT-OD or a Fulltone OCD or a Xotic BB preamp on the OD side. I have tried all of them, and honestly, I can't pick a winner. They are all great OD pedals that can really impart a unique vibe to your tone.

And a +1 for the TimeFactor. Great pedal.
 
I use mostly MXR pedals, I think their stuff is the best there is, unless you go for "boutique" pedals (i.e. price is not an issue...I call for instance, T.Rex. boutique)
The Carbon Copy delay is really good. I don't use distortion pedals, but the MXR distortion is good too.
Line 6 delay stomp is supposedly very good also, but it was too much bells and whistles so I went with MXR.
However, for chorus I prefer the VoodooLabs one over MXR, but that's for another thread.
My main arguments for MXR:
1. Great Sound
2. Doesn't colour the tone noticeably when bypassed
3. Solid build
4. Standardized layout (either 9V or 18V DC, no fancy PSU needed)
5. Not cheap, but not too expensive either. (you won't regret paying a little extra over a Boss pedal or those other cheapies ;))
 
I use the Xotic BB, but not with my Diezel amps, as they don't need them (jmho).
However, in another thread, I showed and explained my pedalboard set up that I designed for specific use with my Diezel amps.
The toys that I used were what I felt enhanced the tone of the amp without changing it's voicing.
It is possible that it would be too much considering your question, but I would audtion the Xotic BB to see how you like what it does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANNQkONYsgE
Check this video out at 2:54 where the BB is engaged. Also used in the other clips at this video site as well.
http://www.indoorstorm.com/John_Suhr_Ba ... n-200.html
 
Well if you like the ME-50, you can always buy another one and put one in front of the amp and one in the loop!

I have an ME-50 and was using the OD pedal section in front of the amp to give a bit more definition and slight gain boost. My favorites were the TS-808 model and the ProCo Rat model, both with the gain at a low level. I could hear some digital artifacts though and went hunting for a single OD pedal to replace it with. I ended up on a Maxon OD-9. Sounds good! It's perfect for the distortion enhancement I'm using it for. It does color the tone just a touch when engaged depending on what it's set to- which I like.

For running a pedal into the clean channel you could consider this one, or perhaps a Maxon OD-9+. The Maxon OD-9 has a noticeable mid-range hump. I like this when running into the distorted channels, but when running into a clean channel it may sound a bit too present.
 
axeman81":hpo5yvws said:
I use mostly MXR pedals, I think their stuff is the best there is, unless you go for "boutique" pedals (i.e. price is not an issue...I call for instance, T.Rex. boutique)
The Carbon Copy delay is really good. I don't use distortion pedals, but the MXR distortion is good too...
My main arguments for MXR:
1. Great Sound
2. Doesn't colour the tone noticeably when bypassed
3. Solid build
4. Standardized layout (either 9V or 18V DC, no fancy PSU needed)
5. Not cheap, but not too expensive either. (you won't regret paying a little extra over a Boss pedal or those other cheapies ;))
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+100

I gotta say up until a few years ago (before all of the reissues), I wouldn't given MXR a chance in hell of surviving. I've got a '78 script phase 90, old school flanger (117) and a script dyna comp - all still rocking tone-wise (albeit noisey - but aren't all of the oldies but goodies!). Since picking up my EVH phase 90 and flanger, I'm back - square in their camp.

Anyway, the thread was about good delays. I've got several BBD chip analog delays (Maxon AD900/999/80, Boss DM2/3).

I just picked up the new MXR Carbon Copy (M169) delay. FUCKIN' A. This thing is smaller than the Maxons and Boss pedals, has a modulation switch for a chorus-like decay, self-oscillates like the real deal. Oh, and it's quiet w/ my Herbert and VH4, and doesn't suck anymore tone than any other boutique pedals I've played. And at half the price - what am I missing.... :confused:

MXR Carbon Copy delay. :yes: :thumbsup: Fast slapback (for the country, surf tones) to the longer "Run like Hell" and "Cathedral" echoes...it's all there in that box and very convincing.

I also have a MXR Smartgate (M135) on order to take care of the pre-input noise going on with my wahs.

....something about Dunlop/MXR and the CAE relationship is definitely rubbing off on their new line.

Check out MXR and the Carbon Copy analog delay.
 
wel guys, thanks for all the replies and suggestions.

So far I'll stick to the ME-50 as a time based fx unit and for other "cool fx". I'll keep it running in the loop for this.

And I'll play more with my guitar's volume knob and use the amp modes which are amazing. If I indeed decide to get an od pedal, It'll be a Fulltone Fulldrive II/OCD or a BB preamp (loved the sound in those videos that C-4 posted)
:thumbsup: :rock:
 
+1 for the BB Preamp. Very good sounding, like a pimped up Tube Screamer.

I just ordered a 450 Euros drive pedal, the Baldringer Dual Drive. I never tested it, but heard so many rave reviews, including ones from close friends who I really trust tone-wise. So I had to give it a try...let's see.
Check http://www.dual-drive.de, the samples are pretty good but time will tell what it's really all about.

Jakob
 
Joey, the BB Preamp is good, BUT...I think for us Einstein lovers and Single coil lovers, you would LOVE the RC booster. I know people say its a nice clean boost, but w/ the gain over 12:00, it can be THE difference in your tone. I promise.

For cleans, it thickens up the Diezel a huge amount. The Diezel's Deep control can help thicken a little (for single coils), but that mainly effects the low-mids I think and its easy to get away from the tone you're searching for. The RC doesn't color your tone AT ALL.

For the Texas mode (Mode 2 of Ch.1), it makes it sound warm and REALLY thickens the tone as well. This sounds like heaven. You just have to hear it for yourself.

Other than that, if you're looking for more gain for those searing leads or whatever, the RC can't do much in that area...but that's all I would ever need an OD pedal for (with the Diezel anyway). The Diezel has PLENTY of gain for any kind of leads anyway. I've tried all the OD Pedals mentioned, and the RC is the only one that really compliments the Einstein without providing a totally different sound altogether.

Hope that helps. I promise you won't be dissappointed...

-Derek
 
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