Please Help - Module?+Power Tube?+Guitar?=What Sound/Tone?

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I am an acoustic player that regrets not playing much electric all these years.
When I was a kid the electrics and amps I owned/tried, sounded plastic, spiky and thin.
Now, after hearing the egnater amps, I thought "man thats why I never played electric.
It never felt or sounded like a real instrument until now"

Baaam, I have a Mod50 and 2 - 1x12's on order.

It is a bit confusing trying to learn about power tube diferences and what their sounds lend themselves best to.
I know there is a thousand combinations and it can be subjective.
I do understand the basic modules and the sound egnater has created for each (and the basic elec Guitar sound differences ie. tele,strat, Les Paul), but remain hazey on the Power tube subject.


Just using traditional guitar sounds/pickups IE Tele, Strat, les Paul. (I wouldnt mind some high gain info as well)
What power tubes best/greater complimets which modules with which guitars?
I need some kind of basic chart as a jumping off point for future experimentation.

Please Help - Module?+Power Tube?+Guitar?=What Sound/Tone?

I am a global learner.
This will help greatly to make up for the years of lack of electric guitar/amp training and may help others.

Big Thanks
Angelo
http://www.angeloballestero.com
 
Angelo,
We default to the Sovtek 5881 power tubes. We feel that they are the middle of the road tube that works well with all the modules. We know that el-34's are Marshall and 6L6 are Fender, El 84s are vox etc. So these tubes give us the best of all of them to be quite accurate in reproducing all the sounds of each module. The beauty is you can bias any tube of your choice to the amp and the 2 modules. The cool option with our MOD 100 is you can integrate tubes..example run a set of 6L6 and a set of EL 34's. Not an option in the MOD 50 so you need to choose.
Again, we suggest you load it with 5881 and experiment on your own with each module and different tubes. This way we insure that the modules you choose sound great and you are not unhappy starting off. HOpe this is helpful.

Jeff
Egnater Amplification
 
Jeff!

that does help


What power tubes works best with The Modern High gain, Eg3/4 and Erec?

Thanks
Angelo
 
blumuz123":8b350 said:
Jeff!

that does help


What power tubes works best with The Modern High gain, Eg3/4 and Erec?

Thanks
Angelo
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Those all have a good amount of low end in the design so...the need for bounce or bottom might not be needed. Again, it up to your ears...I love the 5881 and just lower the bass and density on my amp. These modules are in their amp format mostly derived from 6L6 bases amps...so I would keep the 5881. I also love the JJ 6V6's drops the wattage on the MOD 50 to 25 and like 4 watts.

Jeff
 
I use to love the 6L6gc with my MHG in my MOD,but as of right now the MHG is in "BFE" :no:
 
jmgman69":b98a2 said:
I use to love the 6L6gc with my MHG in my MOD,but as of right now the MHG is in "BFE" :no:
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shoot me your addy so we can get you a EG5 and we will just wait on the MHG.
 
Jeff!

In general, what are some good examples of parings of Modules for like a cleaner module and a more agressive module
for the Mod50


Thanks
Angelo
 
I'm gonna straight up agree with Jeff, accept I prefer the Tung Sol 5881. Next would be the 6V6. They are a little "snappier". Since you are primarily coming from an acoustic mind set, for modules I would recomend the DLX, Fender Deluxe sound or a T/D, Twin - Deluxe for cleans. Then for high gain I think the smooth voicing of the EG3/4 or a MHG might be a good fit. They are very musical sounding with less rough edge to the tone.
 
Angelo,

The best combination Ive tried for modules is the T/D and EG5. This will cover an incredible amount of ground sonically, yet still with tone for days. The T/D will give you classic Fender cleans like a Twin and mid-gain rock/blues sounds like a pushed Deluxe. Then, the EG5 will give you modern, in-your-face, defined, thick, cutting high-gain.

With those two modules, you can almost play any style of music and the tone is to die for!
 
Yep!

Great thought.

I have ordered it with the vox and the Mod High Gain.
The Mod High gain for big pwer chords for big choruses in songs.

If they will let me, I think I better see if I can switch to a Deluxe on the cleaner side and stay more cosistent if I change up/ experiment w/tubes at some point. (then whenever I get a second Mod50,hehehe, I can have different modules and alternate tubes in it)

Too many delicious sounds out there, Just trying to figure out how to technically achieve them.

Thanks for the input
Angelo
http://www.angeloballestero.com
 
Matt!

I guess I am not sure the difference between theT/D and Deluxe mod, can you explain. is the pushed deluxe side of the T/D the same as the pushed side of the Deluxe mod.

also the EG5 is that the erec Module?

I had picked the Mod high Gain beacause it seems easier to get a big driving power chord under the pop/rock style choruses we do. The erec was to aggressive for the style we do.
How would the EG5 be better in that kind of situation? I want the power chords to support the choruses and vocals and not mask or overide them.

Thanks
Angelo
 
Angelo,

The T/D is a 2 channel module. First channel is a Twin, second is a Deluxe. Twin is cleans and Deluxe side is for mid-gain.

The Vox sounds great too, but be aware that it doesnt have as much headroom as something like the T/D. What that means is that if you use humbucking pickups (ie Les Paul) and/or pick fairly hard, the clean sound will start to distort. The Twin side of the T/D stays "cleaner" longer. Neither is better than the other, they're just different. You have to decide how clean you want your clean. If you are using a Strat or Tele or something else with single coils, the Vox will have more headroom and this might not be a concern.

Modern High Gain (MHG) is an awesome module too. If you're planning on playing in a band though, and particularly if you will have another gutar player, I strongly recommend the EG5. Its very much like the MHG but cuts through the mix better (which means you will be heard easier among the other instruments).

I prefer EG5 to E-Rect and I have both. EG5 is as good as it gets for high gain.
 
I dont mind a not so clean on the clean side, but I am concerned about when I experiment w/power tubes and put lets say 6v6s in, that the vox wont respond favorably matched with the Mod High gain or EG5
thanks
Angelo
 
SL2 would be a great match with the Vox. SL2 is a hot rodded Marshall JCM 800 type sound. Since Vox and Marshall are both British tones, that would be a great setup and they would respond similarly to different power tubes.

MHG and EG5 have a little bit of British going on, but also a little American. E-Rect is very American.

I wonder if EG5 / MHG / E-Rect would all be overkill for your pop choruses. SL2 would be great for you I think. Or, honestly, you dont have to use all the gain in the EG5. I play hard rock / pop and I use EG5 with the gain at about noon. SL2 is my next fav gain module.
 
Jeff Hilligan":f10ec said:
jmgman69":f10ec said:
I use to love the 6L6gc with my MHG in my MOD,but as of right now the MHG is in "BFE" :no:
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shoot me your addy so we can get you a EG5 and we will just wait on the MHG.
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I can't wait again LOL.Hey Jeff you guys are incredible,THANKS! :)
 
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