Question about Compression. Peter?

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I often wonder about certain amp makers and their thought process behind the split between clarity, punch, grind, balls, aggression, distortion, and compression.
It always seems like a compromise, as you can never have it all in one amplifier.

It always seems like the big issue with a lot of amps is too much compression.

As an amp designer, creator, etc..., how do you take it when most people complain about the amount of compression an amp has, and what steps do you take towards less compression? Do you modify the amps for the future? do you put that idea towards newer products? or does it not come in to play at all, and you decide you make whatever you want, and if people like it, they will buy it, and if not, they wont?
It just always seems like most people's biggest complaints about amps, such as a VH4, is that it just too compressed for some, and not organic enough. It is what has made me hesitate about one for many years (besides the price here in the U.S.), but for some reason, I always still do want one anyways.

Just wondering how it all comes into play.
;)
 
I know it's Peter's call to chime in here, but I think at the end of the day, the fact that you can't be all things to all people is what drives the development of Diezel amps as they are... Peter mentioned in a thread about tubes that if he wanted his amps to sound like a Mesa or a Marshall or whatever else, he'd have made them this way. But he wanted them to sound like they do - and it's up to people to either like 'em or leave 'em... Tone's a very personal thing, and that's why there's no real right or wrong tone, it's whatever works for you as the player, and your musical styles... If the V or an Einy or a Herb meets that criteria, you're in. If not? You're out.

Just my 2 cents.

V.
 
Some people like the compression, some not.
No problem to take the compression out on
the newer models if the customers agree.
 
No please :). Leave it in as I'm one of the people that will buy a new model soon :P.
 
I think the best amps are those that were built for the builder themselves; someone who grew up in the 80's or 90's, sick of flubby Boogies, impractical Marshall's, expensive Bogners, and decides to make themselves “the perfect amp”. In the process, when their mate tries it out, the builder suddenly recognizes that there could be a market for what he has produced. So he builds a few more for his mates, and the word gradually spreads to someone in America who wants to distribute his amps because he has found HIS perfect amplifier, too.

And as the second post so awesomely says, you have to pick your “fighters”. Not every amp is going to suit you. Diezel does seem to have more compression than other amps out there, but it's just a word for us folks to describe specific tone to newbz who wanna know more. When you actually play a Diezel, though, you don't feel squishy or without control. It doesn't feel particularly organic, but it still is very responsive and articulate. Whether it has too much compression or not they sound great, and that's what matters.
 
Organic:
We use this word wrong, it should be ''standard''
This amp doesnt sound ''standard''


When playing high gain there is no organic :D
 
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