Question about VH4-mids (Peter?)

[DvE]

Hi all,

I am going to buy a mxr 10 band eq to put it in my herberts loop.

@Peter: What mid frequencies are the ones that are more present on the VH4 (esp channel 3/4) than on the Herbert?

I have the feeling that Herbert is very low-mid-heavy and VH4 more focussed on another spectrum of mids.
So it would be very interesting to experiment with boosting exactly these frequencies in Herberts sound

 

[Peter Diezel]

The important midrange on a guitar amp
is from 300Hz to 1kHz

 

[DvE]

Thanks Peter, good to know =)

Going back to the 1st question: If you were asked more precisely to say what frequencies herbert is voiced around and in comparison what vh4, which would you choose to be outstanding in A/B?

 

[Peter Diezel]

It´s difficult to say because it´s a bunch of
small mid spikes. The speaker is also an
important detail.

 

[DvE]

Ok, maybe a little 1-dimensional to ask after certain frequencies, but thank you anyway

Always nice to get answers from the amp-master himself

 

[Kev]

a parametric eq does the best.
i find boosting at 800-1400Hz (growl) and cutting as of 5k (sizzle) post the preamp
and boost pre the distortion a little with the most tiny q at 1,6 for a more edge.

but thats is just getting there a little.

 

[Mizati20]

Not to be rude... but maybe the Herbert isn't for you if your nit-picking that much... you have one of the most amazing pieces of guitar equipment ever invented... enjoy it

If it's mids your after, put EL-34's in the amp, dis-engage the mid-cut, and turn the gain down a little bit

 

[DvE]

Hey, I dont take this as an offence, no problem

Just interested in learning something about different spectrums of frequencies in guitar sound, thats all

 

[FourT6and2]

Not to be rude... but maybe the Herbert isn't for you if your nit-picking that much... you have one of the most amazing pieces of guitar equipment ever invented... enjoy it

If it's mids your after, put EL-34's in the amp, dis-engage the mid-cut, and turn the gain down a little bit

While I do agree with you about EQ'ing correctly, the VH4 does indeed have "more mids" than the Herbert. It's just that each model emphasizes different frequencies. Side-by-side I couldn't get the Herbert to sound as mid-heavy as the VH4. Channel 3 VH4 vs. Channel 2+ Herbert (with the mids maxed out!). For me, at least, I kept wanting more mids but there was nothing left to dial in on the Herbert.

 

[Kev]

if you want the same amount of mids on the herb, as you have on the vh4 then basically turn down the presence and deep knob and turn up the volume. thats how easy it is.
but to get the vh4-sound, you need change the contour of the mids and not the amount.

 

[Mizati20]

Not to be rude... but maybe the Herbert isn't for you if your nit-picking that much... you have one of the most amazing pieces of guitar equipment ever invented... enjoy it

If it's mids your after, put EL-34's in the amp, dis-engage the mid-cut, and turn the gain down a little bit

While I do agree with you about EQ'ing correctly, the VH4 does indeed have "more mids" than the Herbert. It's just that each model emphasizes different frequencies. Side-by-side I couldn't get the Herbert to sound as mid-heavy as the VH4. Channel 3 VH4 vs. Channel 2+ Herbert (with the mids maxed out!). For me, at least, I kept wanting more mids but there was nothing left to dial in on the Herbert.

I cant stress enough how this is my exact experience every single time I've owned a Herbert... I have a huge pet peeve about having to run ANY knob on an amp I own at 100%, I just don't think I should have to do it... and I was always maxing out the mids on the 'Bert it seems...