Rebel 30 used like a Herzog...

[Cotton7]

One my favorite local groups down here in Austin is band called Grady. Their guitarist, Gordie Johnson, runs a Gibson SG into a Garnet Herzog and then into an Ampeg SVT. The sound is absolutely huge!!! I have an old Plexi moded with 5881s in it and was thinking about front loading it the Rebel 30's silent record out. However, I don't want to fry my amp and I really don't want to drop $500 on something (Ganet Herzog) that I may not like. Im thinking the speaker emulated output will not do the trick. Anyone else try this? Is it safe?

Thanks,

Cotton

 

[thickwood]

I am going to try the rebel 30 line out to a laneys input.
I would try it into the low level input of the laney, if you should try it and keep the gain down low at first .
The line level should be going to a PA and the input pad adjusted as those being SS amps.
Tube preamps are able to take a higher signal .
Im waiting on the XLR cable to arrive,they sent the male insted of female cable and agreed to reship it monday.
good luck, im suprized at no info on this slave amp idea .

 

[Cotton7]

Thanks again for the response, Thickwood. I've since tried for a little while. The gain channel is bit too noisy when pushing the Marshall cranked. However, I'd does sustain like no tomorrow. There might be something cool here with the right channel one setting on the Rebel and the right settings on the Marshall but, I am too worried about pushing that way for a long time at higher volumes. It's probably, safe but, I can stick with an overdrive/booster pedal for now.

I get like this with gear and start noodling around with them to see if there is some new tone in there somewhere. I did a little reading about the Herzog. It was invented for Randy Bachman "BTO, American Woman. etc.). Back in the early 70's, he would take a Fender champ and crank it up into a Marshall. He was quotes as saying that "it would sound incredible for about 10 mins" then he would end up smoking his amp. His tech at the time, fixed it by putting a load on the speaker out and adding a few components (resistors) to the signal. The rest is history. The Herzog was named after a book that they were both reading at the time and they thought it sounded cool. It's basically one 12AX7 and one 6V6 pushed into glory and then pushing that into more tube glory. Made a lot sense back in the day. However, I think the new way is to simply just put a fat boost/overdrive in front of the amp to get a similar effect.

Tone is important to me but, the way the amp feels is also very important to me. So important that a different feel on my rig will actually push me into different plying styles. Putting overdriven tubes on top of tubes to overdrive those tubes definitely changes the feel on your rig.