Renegade Bias Question?

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Okay, I know the answer to this. "Bruce is right." I'm still going to ask anyway.

Why are the bias currents for the Renegade listed so high? I bias my other amp at a little more than 1/2 what is listed in the Renegade manual. I would think with two 6L6's, the bias would be closer to 43 mA for 70%.

My other amp with 2 6L6's sounds really sweet at that spot, and that's pretty close to how it came from the manufacturer. I have no idea what the actual plate voltage and power dissapation of the tubes are, as Bugera doesn't list their specs. 43 mA was taken from a forum and was very close to the factory setting.

Still 70+ mA seems too high. The only explanation I have heard is that you have to double the value you would calculate for one tube. That would make 43 mA really hot for one tube (I'm assuming 25+ Watts, 450+ V Plate) but really cool for two.

Are Bruce's bias currents typical for two valve power sections? I swear I have never heard before of bias currents being multiplied by the number of tubes. I'm fairly new to this though. The Renegade sounds ablsolutely great at factory bias. I'm just afraid that I'm going to be replacing tubes every 6-8 months.
 
Each test point on the Renegade is in fact 2 tubes added together, which is why it's so high. You are not measuring 70+ on each tube of the Renegade. So as you were mentioning, just divide that number in half to see what is on each tube. I can't comment on Bugera's bias settings, since I don't know all the details about their amps, but it's doubtful a manufacturer would purposely send out an amp knowing that it will burn through tubes quickly.
 
Okay. I didn't think I would warrant a response from Ian. I just wanted a couple of people to say, "Bruce is right," so I could go back to being confused about my other amp.

Thanks! :D :doh:
 
Haha, I figured I would just clear up the confusion before anyone confused you any more
 
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