Renegade pfft

[Daavvt]

First time i have ever blown an amp...

Was playing today, using record out, where the speaker output was going through an attenuator, then to a speaker, the attenuator was turned up enough that no sound was coming from the speaker.

Playing on channel one with the volume turned way up, the gain at 12 and master a 1 o'clock. Heard a pfft and the sounds dies out. Amp lights go out (blew the breaker on the power strip the head was plugged into)., Smell of electrical burntness at the head. I pulled the fuses and both look fine. Put them back in, reset the power strip and turn on the amp again, no lights, no sound.

That is as far as i have gotten. Any suggestions as to what might have happened, and if i can do any tests (pull tubes, etc) to see what kind of damage might be done? I can solder, but have no real expertise for electrical work.

Dave

 

[Daavvt]

ok just answered my own question: RTFM!
The fuses in the bias section at fine, but the fuse at the power corg plug in was very much blown.

Easy enough to replace, but i wonder if it was caused by the setup with the attenuator. I have a Radial ToneBone head switcher, i wonder if i am better off using that to create a load for using the record out feature for headphone playing with this amp? Maybe just a bad fuse? Any risk to replace the fuse and keep playing under either of these scenarios?


Thanks in advance for any help, i know these are probably fairly obvious questions.
Dave

 

[Daavvt]

OK now i am officially worried. There was a spare fuse in the holder, I out that back in, plugged the speaker output into a normal speaker cab, and powered the am up. As soon as i took it off standby there is a loud low end buzzing burping noise, i was able to switch it to standbye, but when i tried it again will all the volumes down, it blew the next fuse after a few seconds.

dammit! I have only had this thing for a couple weeks. Any diagnostics i can try?

 

[jmgman69]

maybe blew a power tube

 

[JeepGuy04]

Hey,

Sorry to read about your amp troubles... I would contact Egnater asap...They could give you the best troubleshooting advice.

I don't have experience with attenuators... The first thing I can think to check is maybe something wasn't connected properly when this happened. Maybe the input outputs reversed..? I thought using an attenuator will still push the speaker so there would be some sound?

I know the Egnater Rebel 30 amp has a silent record out. Maybe that would make things simpler.. but if your like me...haha spending a lot of $$$ on another amp isn't really an option.

Rob

 

[Ian Egnater]

please contact nate@egnateramps.com. He will be able to guide you through some trouble shooting.

 

[Daavvt]

please contact nate@egnateramps.com. He will be able to guide you through some trouble shooting.

Thanks for jumping in. I have emailed him and he responded. I have replaced the fuses and dropped him a reply, hoping for next steps soon.

Thanks!
Dave

 

[guitar54]

Keep the rest of us informed as to what the problem ends up being...curious.

 

[Ian Egnater]

please contact nate@egnateramps.com. He will be able to guide you through some trouble shooting.

Thanks for jumping in. I have emailed him and he responded. I have replaced the fuses and dropped him a reply, hoping for next steps soon.

Thanks!
Dave

No problem, I'm sure he'll take care of everything for you!

 

[Daavvt]

Still troubleshooting.
Nate at Egnater had me remove each set of power tubes in turn and same problem, including with all power tubes removed. Now I am waiting to see if there are any other steps i can try.
Luckily i still have my rebel 20 to keep me going while i wait.

Dave

 

[viking22]

I would bring back the amp and get a new one if it's still possible .With mine,i can play at very,very low volume,without an attenuator,and still get some very nice tones.A great surprise/bonus as i was afraid this amp would be too loud .In fact,it's better than the Rebel20 for that...Try to get a new one !

 

[mmorse]

I had a problem with my Renegade. I was playing real low one day and the amp just died. All the external fuses were fine. I opened it up but could find no internal fuses. I took the amp to Nate and it turned out an internal fuse blew. There are 6 internal fuses but they are contained inside of these little black boxes that are soldered to the various pcbs. I was looking for fuses, not little black boxes.

Sounds like you might have other issues though. Good Luck.

 

[Daavvt]

update on this for those who were tracking.

Nate at Egnater was great with me, although we did all our convo's via email and there were sometimes when i waited a day or two to get a response with the next step. At the end, he had me pull each set of power tubes and i had the same issues. I pulled ALL the power tubes, same issue. I switched out all the preamp tubes (luckily i had 6 in house) and same issue.

Nate gave me an RMA number and i have shipped it to a repair center in RI to have them work on it. I'm disappointed in the trouble for an amp that is less than 6 months old, but I feel like Egnater has done well by me with support and repair. I will chime in again with any details on time to get it fixed and returned. I don't expect it to be less than 30 days, but maybe I'll get lucky. In the meantime, i am really glad i never sold my Rebel 20 and am happily playing through it while i wait.


Dave