Robben Ford tone help

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Hi guys...if im after RF Talk to ur Daughter lead tone, what would be closer, A COD module by itself, or a TD module with a Zendrive in front of it. Also agree with the the others that say the Xotic BB really matches the Egnater, it sounds awesome in front of the vx or sl2 :thumbsup: thanx...Macka
 
Hey Mcgas,

Yea, I've been really digging my BB for a while now. I can get great tones with it in front of any module. If you are looking for the RF tone it's a tough one. Of course none of us will ever sound just like him but it's a great tone to shoot for. I am getting very, very, VERY good Ford tones right now. I'm running my Zen Drive into the B channel of a Bassman module. Gained up fairly high on both the module and the pedal. Use the guitars volume knob to find the spot you are looking for. Tons of good tones through out the entire range of the volume knob. I tried to get the Rf style sound with just the COD for a while and it just did not get there for me. I've heard some clips of John C playing through the COD and he was able to coax some very Dumble like sounds out of it. I'm WAY better off with the Zen/B'man combo. It is truly an unbelievable tone. I have not moved off of it for weeks now. The trick with the Zen Drive for me was NOT to use it with Marshall type modules. I didn't really like it for while because I was using my EG3 and SL modules. The Zen likes Fender style amps.

In a pinch I'd go with the AC Booster, it's a great smooth OD and it has some Zen Drive like characteristics and is a great pedal in it's own right. But not any where close to the Zen in the touch sensitivity area.
 
Thanx for the reply, understand what ur sayin, iv got a Mosferatu and it doesnt suit the sl2 at all. Have u tried the Zen into a T/D ? thx ...Macka
 
Thanx John, that sounded great!...what did u boost it with? was that ur mod 50 or m4 p/amp setup? Agree the vx module has some great tones hiding in it... thanx Macka
 
Can't recall if it was VX in MOD 50, or M4 patched into MOD 50 return, or M4 into VHT, but I can hear that it probably wasn't the later due to the nice compression from what sounds like the MOD 50 power section. I didn't really boost it much, just fattened it up a bit with a Keely compressor that has a little lower mid bump. I need to decide really quickly if I'm going to replace that guitar with one that doesn't have the pitchy intonation of just leave it...as I kind of like the tone.
 
Thx John, just out of interest, what is the difference in "feel" between the m4 into vht compared to the mod 50? is it squishier or more in ya face, or similar.. also Iv put both 6l6 and el34 in my Mod and I love them both, would be handy to have a vht and put a different set of tubes in each side ..ta Macka
 
They are really different. I like the VHT for a great live power amp if I'm doing a rack thing, but I think there is actually too much headroom. It just has to be stupidly loud before the tubes get that throatiness and mild compression that I like for live or recording. The MOD 50 gets there in low power mode much easier and with a range of tubes. Although you can use 6l6s in some 2-50-2 models that have a switch in them for this, the VHT still doesn't feel like it was really designed for this in mind at the git go. In the MOD 50 by comparison, the 6L6s sound huge . I won't get rid of the VHT because it is the best stereo power amp I have heard though. Also, the VHT presence controls behave more like a tone control, whereas the MOD 50 presence behaves like a tone with gain effects in the upper freqs (which I prefer). The VHT depth and presence have more of a usable range than the MOD 50, but the MOD 50 density and presence dial right to one place where it sounds super musical to me and I just don't want to budge it it sounds so good.
 
Thanx for the informative reply John, vol is always an issue when playing out, ill hold off the power amp and wait for the E 2..thanx Macka
 
Valtiel":28czwjd2 said:
John Czajkowski":28czwjd2 said:
I think you should try boosting/coloring the VOX B channel. I boosted it just a little for the squirrelly part in the intro to this clip:

https://www.soundclick.com/util/streamm3 ... 39621&q=hi

Sounds killer John, is that still the VX from 0:32-0:45?

Hey Morgan, that more crunchy part with the altered dominant lines is either the ie4 ch3 or SL2 A...can't recall. The VOX B, when boosted a little can get hella mean too!
 
John Czajkowski":76ox4w2l said:
Valtiel":76ox4w2l said:
John Czajkowski":76ox4w2l said:
I think you should try boosting/coloring the VOX B channel. I boosted it just a little for the squirrelly part in the intro to this clip:

https://www.soundclick.com/util/streamm3 ... 39621&q=hi

Sounds killer John, is that still the VX from 0:32-0:45?

Hey Morgan, that more crunchy part with the altered dominant lines is either the ie4 ch3 or SL2 A...can't recall. The VOX B, when boosted a little can get hella mean too!

Killer man! Thanks for the info.
 
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