Serial loop???

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Hey guys...

Anyone use the MOD 50 serial loop? I ask because I love my Nova delay in the parallel loop.....using it in the serial loop will allow me to also run an EQ for a lead boost. Before I go setting it in the serial and setting unity gain...is it worth the effort?

Thanks!
Rich
 
richedie":2kjfs4dv said:
Hey guys...

Anyone use the MOD 50 serial loop? I ask because I love my Nova delay in the parallel loop.....using it in the serial loop will allow me to also run an EQ for a lead boost. Before I go setting it in the serial and setting unity gain...is it worth the effort?

Thanks!
Rich
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To me ,it's always worth it !You might end up with something you enjoy,try it.You can always put it back :D
 
Well, I really like the Nova in the parallel but I just can't decide on a lead boost. That is the big issue. I need a lead boost that also helps shape the tone or add mids. Something like the Fulltone Fatboost out front or an EQ in the loop. EQ would be cheaper.....maybe I'll see how the Nova sounds in the serial this weekend.
 
Just end this and put a volume pedal in the series loop and it will work just like your main master volume! Put the volume pedal first in the chain. It will only work in the series loop.
 
Jeff Hilligan":3j8tqt57 said:
Just end this and put a volume pedal in the series loop and it will work just like your main master volume! Put the volume pedal first in the chain. It will only work in the series loop.
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I don't want to have to use the series if I don't have to....plus I have no room for the volume pedal. LOL! It seems I have a hard time fitting pedals on my board because of the patch cables......any recommendations on small, easy to use cables, etc?
 
Like Jeff says the volume boost will only really work in the serial loop. Keep in mind that using a volume pedal might impact your high end. Since your non-boosted tone will essentially mean having a volume pedal backed off in the loop, you will be rolling off some high end. You can compensate with upping the presence, but then when you engage your "boost" and push the volume pedal full on, it might be too bright. Especially for someone who likes dark tones.

Dude, you dont need anything in the loop for solos. Just use channel B with a little more gain and volume. I mean really... you keep trying to fit a round peg in a square hole. I dont think you're going to find anything that works as well as what Ive recommended.
 
So you cant fit a boost pedal either? The volume pedal will solve the problem.
 
EWSEthan":26yucq39 said:
Like Jeff says the volume boost will only really work in the serial loop. Keep in mind that using a volume pedal might impact your high end. Since your non-boosted tone will essentially mean having a volume pedal backed off in the loop, you will be rolling off some high end. You can compensate with upping the presence, but then when you engage your "boost" and push the volume pedal full on, it might be too bright. Especially for someone who likes dark tones.

Dude, you dont need anything in the loop for solos. Just use channel B with a little more gain and volume. I mean really... you keep trying to fit a round peg in a square hole. I dont think you're going to find anything that works as well as what Ive recommended.
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+1...end of discussion
 
I could fit a boost pedal or EQ...but the vol. pedal...no.

I REALLY appreciate all the help gents! :thumbsup:

In the end, I think I am going to order an EG5 so I'll have the EG5 and MHG to go to for any tones I need - I'll just do like I do now (as you said) and use channel B with more volume for lead. Sometimes I feel I want more mids.....but to be honest at the least gig, I got comments on the great lead tone just using channel B with no added EQ.

May not be the perfect solution but it is by far the most sensible. I just won't be able to get the SL2 and/or use that in this way because channel A and B are different and I doubt I could get very heavy tones out of A. That was my whole reason for wanting then boost, etc.

Again.....I bet I would have all I need with the MHG and EG5. Just roll back the gain or volume for variation. Nobody in the audience will certainly not care if it is an SL2 or MHG/EG5.

Thanks guys. Keep it simple..... :yes:
 
Good call going with EG5. SL2 will not get heavy enough for you I dont think.

For the record, I tried to do the volume pedal in the loop thing in the past with my SLO. Its possible it was the pedal itself (or the infamous SLO FX loop), but it sounded AWFUL. Like utterly terrible. I do not recommend it under any circumstances.

With EG5 you will not need to boost any mids for leads. You WILL be heard. As an aside, the EG5 with position 2 of an H-S-H strat will give you a killer blues tone! You wont even have to roll back the volume (though I only have the gain on 10 oclock...)
 
Matt, I would have either used an EQ pedal or little boost pedal.
It sounds like the EG5 is very versatile and if I want the darker tones I can always pop in the MHG. Having good quality pickups, pots, caps with 50s wiring is important for me because I can get so many tones just form the guitar alone.
I must say, surprisingly I felt I had plenty of smooth warmth and mids at gigs soloing on the MHG.

The only module that really calls me though is the EG3/4 - the description and tone samples are ME! I don't think I could get it with any other module. Problem is...it is taken after the SL so that means not enough gain in channel A. That would take me right back to the boost issue. I must have the EG3/4 someday! LOL.

EG3/4
"Here in our worldwide headquarters (a.k.a The Amp Lounge), we asked what would happen if we were to take the SL2 and smooth it out a bit for soloing. We darkened it up a bit, and added a touch of mid range emphasis, and created what is the perfect sound for mic’ing through a p.a. system (which is more and more common for you guys that gig regularly).

Channels A and B were taken from the acclaimed Egnater TOL amplifiers and act as great rhythm and lead channels for guys who favor a lead tone that is a little smokier."
 
You'll be fine with EG5. Like I said, eq it with your ears not your eyes. Dont be afraid to run the treble real low if it sounds best to you.

Maybe Egnater will make you a custom EG4/4 module. The 4 side probably has enough gain for you.
 
The EG5 has shitloads of gain!I can't even get it into second gear :D
 
Wow, good point...a custom EG4/4! Honestly I would love that. I may call the shop and see if that would cost a lot more. That way I could just role the gain back on Channel A. :)
 
I find the A channel on the EG3 to have plenty of gain. Not as much as the B channel but plenty. The tone is slightly different as well. The EG3/4 is hands down my favorite module. It covers so much ground, never sounds harsh or dull and always sits perfect in the mix.

richedie":31jx4esj said:
Wow, good point...a custom EG4/4! Honestly I would love that. I may call the shop and see if that would cost a lot more. That way I could just role the gain back on Channel A. :)
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EWSEthan":zlv83y11 said:
Like Jeff says the volume boost will only really work in the serial loop. Keep in mind that using a volume pedal might impact your high end. Since your non-boosted tone will essentially mean having a volume pedal backed off in the loop, you will be rolling off some high end. You can compensate with upping the presence, but then when you engage your "boost" and push the volume pedal full on, it might be too bright. Especially for someone who likes dark tones.

Dude, you dont need anything in the loop for solos. Just use channel B with a little more gain and volume. I mean really... you keep trying to fit a round peg in a square hole. I dont think you're going to find anything that works as well as what Ive recommended.
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+1 on that. How much more do you need than 2 rhythm and 2 solo channels? If you do, than later this year you can get the E2 and 8 button footswitch. That will give you 4 rhythm channels and 4 lead channels...way over the top as far as I'm concerned.

That being said I might go for it so I can run the Vox and EG5 modules with my TD and SL2 modules.
 
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