So glad I watched this Fryette power amp shootout after someone on the forum referenced it

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Been wondering whether I needed a VHT 2/90/2 power amp to go with the GP3 I bought, but after listening to the minor difference between these VHT/Fryette power amps and a PS-2, I did some testing with the PS-2 I have and was sold.

Makes for a nice pairing with tonnes of balls. I tried to shoot a video, but my simple phone can't handle the SPL levels. Going to try my wife's iPhone next and see if that can do a better capture. Sound in the room was gorgeous, yet brutal at the same time.
 
I watched that vid as well. Now that I think of it, pretty sure that I suggested this vid not too long ago in another post. Anyway, the PS2 is good enough for me. Would still love to have one of the big boys, but it would just be looking pretty sitting in a rack.
 
I watched that vid as well. Now that I think of it, pretty sure that I suggested this vid not too long ago in another post. Anyway, the PS2 is good enough for me. Would still love to have one of the big boys, but it would just be looking pretty sitting in a rack.
I thought about a Power Station, but the biggest issue is they are not stereo. Thats the whole point of a rig like this. :D
 
I thought about a Power Station, but the biggest issue is they are not stereo. Thats the whole point of a rig like this. :D
Yep; setting each side of a delay to 2 different times, in/out of a stereo power amp to 2 cabs, with a middle dry cab is a thing of beauty.
 
Yep; setting each side of a delay to 2 different times, in/out of a stereo power amp to 2 cabs, with a middle dry cab is a thing of beauty.
I initially smirked at this thought (2 units) because more is overkill which I like personally. The PS100 gives you lots of extra options as a single unit… boost channel which I love; fx loop which allows on/off.. ohm switching etc. sadly it’s not stereo BUT 2 units would do the trick. Unlimited power!!
 
It's kind of difficult to experience the gear with limited window of video. But better than nothing.

Here is some information from Fryette...

"because most racks used a preamp - or three - or a combination of preamps and slaved amps using resistive (not reactive) loads. Our power amps worked well because they brought the needed dynamic and tonal elements to get closer to a real amp sound.


These days, modelers have more (though certainly not all) of the tonal and dynamic ingredients and we have better loads like our Power Load, Power Station and the Suhr product to enhance the behavior of slaved amps. So now, the power amp can afford to be more neutral. Some feel that this validates SS power amps because "flat response", etc, which is not necessarily true, but that's the pitch.


Just because you have good reactive load and are using an EL34 based amp head, doesn't mean you need an EL34 power amp to somehow retain the amps original flavor. Once the amps EL34s have added their bit of spice, it doesn't make sense that an EL34 power amp is needed to preserve that, or that a 6L6 power amp somehow magically erases it. And especially that a SS power amp will somehow stay out of the way entirely.


In general, what a tube power amp in this case brings is dynamic feel, often severely lacking in SS power amps, or masked in tube power amps with heavy coloration or intentionally dragged dynamic response. The 2/50/2 delivers a very dynamic feel, which is why it works so well in this application. The LXII likewise delivers great dynamic response and can be operated as a more neutral amp sonically, or punched up to behave similarly to the 2/50/2.


I should mention that the 2/50/2 cheats a little because it's actually 65W per channel with both channels driven, comparable to the Mesa Simul Two:90 which is also good for around 65W per channel (both amps measured at 5% distortion). The LXII is 50W per channel on the nose (both channels driven), and close to 60W one channel only.


The main reason for using 6L6s in the LXII is because they tend to be more rugged mechanically, so better suited for use in this tight environment.


How is the LXII different from the Syn5050 (which yes, we also designed)? Well, there is a reason the LXII costs a little more and that mainly has to do with the build quality of transformers. Though similar in design, the LXII OTs use a particularly high quality steel grade and are precision wound with kraft insulation (as opposed to tape), which improves frequency response and tonal consistency. The LXII also has a little more dynamic responsiveness, which as stated above, is important for modelers, preamps and slaved amps. The LXII also has the remote switchable features and Line Outs on each channel. The Syn5050 gives a little more coloration and sag, which they wanted to enhance the flavor of the modules.


About the Presence and Depth trimpots, over the decades, we've seen that most users set those controls a particular way and don't change that much if ever. They're not radical tone shaping features anyway, so the idea that they need to be intensely on demand is not consistent with our long experience on the subject. Being able to set them to taste and then switch them on and off individually or simultaneously is a very useful feature, an idea also borne out in extensive user feedback and validated over 2 years or so in field testing.


Is the LXII just 2 Power Station power amps in one box? Yes and no. Both products follow the same basic topology used on all of our power amp designs, and yes there are essentially two amps on one chassis, but the toroid power transformer in the LXII is a more efficient and responsive item that the square transformers in the PS-2, PS-100, 2/50/2 and 2/90/2, so it kind of straddles both worlds. If you only use one channel of the LXII, it will be stiffer than the PS-2 as a power amp. If you run both channels in stereo, or in bridge mono, you'll have more headroom and get better power supply utilization, which will give you a better feel, but not at bedroom volume. So, which is best for you is all about application."


"Depends on how loud you'll be playing and which cabs you're driving. They're all similar in design and all sound massive at low to medium volumes.

The LXII sounds remarkably big for it's size. The 2/90/2 will sound massive at higher volume than the 2/50/2 obviously.

The Classic XXX will stomp anything at any volume.

BTW, Mick did and still does use Classics, not 2150. Upcoming tour will be powered by Classic XXX :dude."
 
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