Some VH4 action!

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yes it is...... I haven't been using ch3 for a while now since it's got a circuit problem so I'm using ch4 as rythm and MAN!! it's GREAT
 
Thx a lot for sharing! You rock man :rock: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Just wondered if the VH4 with its 100 Watts is catchier to tame than your 50 Watt Eini for bedroom levels? Which one of them do you prefer and why? Is the Eini more vintage than the Vh4?
That were a lot of questions!
 
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Thx a lot for sharing! You rock man :rock: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Just wondered if the VH4 with its 100 Watts is catchier to tame than your 50 Watt Eini for bedroom levels? Which one of them do you prefer and why? Is the Eini more vintage than the Vh4?
That were a lot of questions!


thank you bud.

Well, you know, Olaf once said to me that there's really not much of a dif between a 50watter and a 100watter, it was a matter of "size". And I though that was weird, but now that I have both a 50 and a 100 w he's totally right. They both go EXTREMELY loud......so loud that you cannot really tell right away which one's louder. OBviously the vh4 will be louder but it's not something you "feel" right away. Now the 100 w has more "size"........it's bigger sounding, fuller. I haven't played the same amp in a 50 and 100 watt version but you get the point.

Which one's easier to tame...... hmmmm they both have amazing master/volume control interaction, I have't been able to play at gig levels with any of them (my neighbors would slay me! :thumbsdown: :lol: :LOL: ) but I've played them VERY loud a few times and I must tell you that I was surprised when I got the VH4, because the Master control/channel Volume knobs have a better interaction than the Einstein. For example, if I set the master to lets say 10:00 and try to regulate the voluem with the channel vol. it's TOO LOUD, it really canot be done...... also, I get a "thin" sound up until I pass the vol. know at least 'til 10:00 which is too mother freaking loud for bedroom. With the Vh4 I can do this perfectly. I usually have the master at 9:00 and use the ch. vol to regulate, and sounds full and pretty!. The Einstein needs to have the master VERY low and th ch. vol at 12:00 - 2:00 to sound full and pretty at bedroom levels.

So looking at it from that perspective the Vh4 is easier to tame. BUT as with everthing there's another side to the coin........ the Vh4 as nbart once told me, NEEDS volume to sound THE BEST. It still sounds fuckin' incredible! but once you push it a bit the amp opens up and really sings, whereas the Einstein sounded pretty even at bedroom levels and "gig" levels; of course, don't get me wrong, it sounds BETTER.... for sure, but I could set the knobs one way while the volume is low, and if I turn it up I just need to maybe adjust bass/deep and presence a tiny bit. With the Vh4 I cannot... my settings for bedroom playing are one and for gig/band jam levels another one completely.

Which one I prefer? I love them both obviously, I even got the Vh4 to "try it" and see which one I dug the must to keep it and sell the other one hehehe I cannot bring myself to sell either. But If I HAD to sell one, I'd sell the Einstein and keep the Vh4. The clean channel is more to my liking, the crunch/blues channel gels better with me too, and channel 3 and 4 is more my typeof gain (extremely tight). But the Einstein has a very very nice modern sound with a bit of vintage feel in there that is VERY hard to part with. I love it.

Is the Einstein more vintage than the VH4.......of course....but the Einstein is not really a vintage amp. It's VERY versatile and it CAN sound very vintage.....but it's not like pluggin' into a plexi straight away if you know what I mean. What I like the most about Diezel amps it that they're not really trying to sound like "anything" else BUT diezel...... some ppl like that, some don't but if you're after a UNIQUE sound, diezel's the company! :rock:

hope that answered your questions hhehe if you got any other, feel free to shoot. :D
 
Thanks a lot for taking your time and asking all those questions so detailed. Extremly kind, appreciate that a lot! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Actually there aren`t any questions left.
For about a year ago attending a congress in Germany/ Frankfurt i took the chance to test some amps at Musik Schmidt.
Amps tested where Bogner XTC, Shiva, Elmwood Modena 90, Mesa Roadster, Carvin Legacy, Cornford MKII and a Diezel Einstein Combo. Without going into detail there where two amps i really liked: The Shiva and the Einstein. After testing most of the other amps, i saw that little box (Einstein) - to be honest i thought -not the sexiest amp i have ever seen (sorry Peter :lol: :LOL: )- but lets give that shoe box a try :D . Havn`t heard too much of Diezel until then and thought that the amps where exclusively designed for metal heads (no offence here :D ). So when plugging in i suspected to hear a kind of more sterile tone as i have heard from an ENGL i played earlier.
So first thing i played was the Crushing day solo from Satriani.
After the first few bars i thought to myyself that is not possible. That little box sounded like no other amp i ever heard before. Felt like i was standing right besides Satch playing that damn solo- think that was the best "guitar moment" i ever had). Instant gratification and especially not just at earbleeding volumes. No, even at volumes your ears can tolerate, that thing sounded extremly well. (Know why all metal players have long hairs? To hide their ear plugs. :lol: :LOL: )
So unnecessary to say that i went out of that store with a devilish desire (some call it GAS) to aquire that amp as fast as possible.
As said that was one year ago :cry:
But i will succeed at last :D/ :D/
 
you will not be dissapointed, the Einstein is a master piece. Some ppl like the Einstein more than the Vh4 and the Herbert. And the thing is, Diezels have gotten a weird rep. around musicians, like they're metal amps, and that not true AT ALL. They are extremely versatile amps that will do it ALL and impresively well.

I for one love the look of the Einstein, is my fav.... small chasis head, cool blue LED, fucking cool looking amp! :D
 
Nice tone Joey! :rock:
I should stop purchasing "weeryy" expensive mics lately and get a VH4 at last. But Einy is so great that I always think that it can not go better than that. :doh:
 
I think I have to buy a VH4 again. This amp is just a masterpiece. Nice vid, Joey.
 
thank you Olaf :thumbsup:

Honestly the more I play this amp the more I like it and the more tones I can squeeze out of it. I can't wait to get it to peter and fixed the ch3 prob. and getting "updated" to the current version which I've been told too many times sounds WAY better than the old.......hell and I'm in love with "the old"..... I don't know what to expect once it's back! :D
 
I was at a concert on saturday, a cover band contest where a guy played a VH4 (which I've serviced before) and his tone (LTD Eclipse+Major+Diezel 4x12") was awesome . . .

Reminded me how much I miss my old VH4 stack . . . :cry:
 
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