Speaker volume question

[Meanjoegreene]

Had a random thought about speakers…do they change much with volume before they get pushed into actual distortion themselves? Like is some of the reason most amps sound better turned up due to the speakers being pushed ? Or do speakers follow the same EQ curve till they’re pushed to their limit ?

Probably both if I had to guess with more good stuff happening because of amp volume with the PI and power tubes getting hit

 

[Kōbra]

Some speaker sound worse when push that far. Lose definition. Perceived as volume loss or your ears adjust and seem volume loss.

Amp sound better because more master mean more power section come into play. Speaker handle it or not. Higher wattage setups better sound at high volume.

Lower wattage setup. Sometime not so good at higher volume.

Also bias has much to do. Hotter bias, sound worse when power section pushed.... more mushy.... worse sound.

 

[stephen sawall]

The EQ curve is all over the place.

 

[Floyd Eye]

All speakers are not created equal. For example Yamaha DSR12 tops sound great, even when overdriven, whereas K12s sound like shit when you push them too far. As far as guitar speakers go I'd imagine there is a point of diminishing returns, but it's probably not realized with most rigs if the speakers are rated to handle the power of the amp. A Cream 90 in a 22 watt Fender Brown sounds great clean, at low volume and great dimed when it is really just on the edge, but I assume it would sound different with more power. It's basically a 90 watt Blue so it breaks up at much higher volume than a Blue does.

 

[stephen sawall]

The cream starts getting speaker breakup at 1 watt. Like most Celestion speakers.

 

[psychodave]

Speakers sound VERY different when pushed. Some of it is the speaker and some of it is our ears. Some speakers compress when pushed, while some fart out and every possible scenario in between.

 

[Floyd Eye]

The cream starts getting speaker breakup at 1 watt. Like most Celestion speakers.

So you don't think there's more headroom than a Blue before it breaks up ?

 

[stephen sawall]

So you don't think there's more headroom than a Blue before it breaks up ?

Ask Celestion

 

[Floyd Eye]

Ask Celestion

Don't need to bro.

 

[Meanjoegreene]

Speakers sound VERY different when pushed. Some of it is the speaker and some of it is our ears. Some speakers compress when pushed, while some fart out and every possible scenario in between.

That’s what I’m thinking

But are they sounding progressively different as you keep adding more volume or basically the same until you arrive at a certain amount of power ?

 

[ChuggNorris]

Some speaker sound worse when push that far. Lose definition. Perceived as volume loss or your ears adjust and seem volume loss.

Amp sound better because more master mean more power section come into play. Speaker handle it or not. Higher wattage setups better sound at high volume.

Lower wattage setup. Sometime not so good at higher volume.

Also bias has much to do. Hotter bias, sound worse when power section pushed.... more mushy.... worse sound.

See above.

Dude answered your question quite clearly at the beginning of this absolutely ridiculous thread.

Others after him were riding his coat tail and echoing what he said originally.

Learn reading & comprehension.
It will help you in future endeavors.

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"Does a speaker change volume when pushed"
So this is the "epiphany" you had on the shitter eh? Wheels working hard up there.


They give what the amp puts in and break up accordingly depending on all factors already stated above. You can always tell when someone doesn't wipe their own asses around here I hope you made it outta there okay

 

[Meanjoegreene]

Yeah, it’s obviously gonna sound way different when it starts to distort. But I’m asking does it change much until the point of distortion…like the power section of a high gain MV amp not really adding much gain cause it stays clean while the preamp does it’s thing.