John Czajkowski":1vijiiw6 said:
The Scumback is the best V30 type speaker out there. They tested a huge amount of V30s and after a lot of $$$, found the ONE that was the best of the batch. This was cloned by Weber. I just got one and fell in love with it. It was a single 100 watter, and after a 24 hour break-in (re-amping chromatic sequences into it cranked halfway up), it is easily the best speaker I have every payed through. I can't wait to get two more now and try loading up a 2x12 with them.
John:
You have the "V30" thing wrong. None of the Scumback speakers were a clone of a V30. Most are similar to various greenbacks, G12H30s, G12-65s, etc. with either a 75hz cone or a 55hz cone. I've tried 3-4 Scumbacks and all of them sound amazing. But the Webers are equally as good honestly. The are all made by the same guy anyways
From Scumback's website
http://www.scumbackspeakers.com/reference.html
M75-8 or -16 --> G12M T1221 Pre Rola 75hz (bass response) lead cone, using the 102 003 Pulsonic cone. These were the most popular speakers made in the old days, and were commonly referred to as "Greenbacks". 25 watts power handling. These speakers had a 35 oz magnet that produced more midrange than low end or high end, resulting in the pronounced mid range hump that sounded dark to many players. Marshall used these extensively in their stack cabs, although the G12H30 model was also very popular.
M75-HP-LHDC --> G12-65 This is a high powered Greenback, with 65 watts of power handling, and a lowered bass response speaker. This is due to the large dust cap used to tone down the high end slightly, which also beefed up the low end slightly. This speaker was made from 78-82 and had over 40 variations in it's short lifespan, according to reputable sources.
M55 --> G12M T1511 Pre Rola 55hz (bass response) bass cone, using the 102 014 Pulsonic cone. 25 watts power handling. These speakers were used in the early Bass logo cabs and up through the early 70's in 100 logo cabs as well.
H75 -8 or -16 --> G12H30 T1217 Pre Rola 75hz (bass response) lead cone, using the 102 003 Pulsonic cone. These speakers had a 50 oz magnet which made them louder, produce more bass and treble, with a flatter midrange response. These came out in mid 66, following the mid 65 introduction of the G12M. They appeared in the Marshall 100 logo cabs most often, and were offered in the lead cone version, and the bass cone version.
H55-8 or -16 --> G12H30 T1281 or T1534 Pre Rola 5hz (bass response) bass cone, using the 102 014 Pulsonic cone. These speakers had a 50 oz magnet which made them louder, produce more bass and treble, with a flatter midrange response. These came out in mid 66, following the mid 65 introduction of the G12M. They appeared in the Marshall 100 & Bass logo cabs most often, and were used by Hendrix later in his career after they were introduced.
H75-LHDC (30 watt) --> No Celestion equivalent. This is an H75 with a tiny bit less treble and a tiny bit more bass, but with more volume and punch than a G12-65 or M75-HP-LHDC, due to the 50 oz heavy magnet. Used for higher gain tones, and the Dumble sound quite effectively.
M75-LHDC (25 watt) --> No Celestion equivalent, but basically a lower power G12-65 with the Pre Rola tone. Great for higher gain with a bit less bass & treble than the H75-LHDC, and reduced volume.
Eric
