Taming the EG5

[mboogman]

For you guys who have done Cap mods to your modules (Adding C1 or C2 caps), what kind, what size, and where do you get your capacitors? I really love the EG5, but I'm starting to think I need to tame the high end just a bit. I have no problems soldering to the circuit board, especially in a place as easy to get to as the two cap spots on the tube board. I just don't want to put in a crap cap, and ruin the tone. Any help would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Kyle

 

[Jeff Hilligan]

I say this with all do respect. Turn the knobs. I run treble at 9 or 10 o clock and then play with the mids and the bright switch before moding. This is not just a mod to the treble since so much resides in the upper mids. Once you try to change the treble you loose what is the character of EG5 the upper mids.

 

[mboogman]

Right now, I'm running the treble at 9:00 with the mids around 12, and the bass around 1:30. It felt just a little too aggressive for me, but maybe my ears were not where they needed to be last night. I should probably go back and check my mic placement too. Now that I think about it, the B channel of my COD was overly bright last night at practice, which is not normal. I must have something else out of whack.

Thanks,
Kyle

 

[RockStarNick]

What kind of tubes?

The EG5 jives well with dark, thick tubes. I can't stand JJ's in most modules, but they sound great in the EG5.


(I'm currently borrowing Matt's EG5 and Erect... giving them both a good test drive. MAN, the EG5 is just killer. I need to get one soon...)

 

[Anonymous]

Right now, I'm running the treble at 9:00 with the mids around 12, and the bass around 1:30. It felt just a little too aggressive for me, but maybe my ears were not where they needed to be last night.

I have the bass and mids cranked and the treble back around 9, bass boost 2 and gain at about 11o'clock and it still breaths fire. Maybe try a 5751 in there and see if it cleans it up.

 

[EWSEthan]

What kind of tubes?

The EG5 jives well with dark, thick tubes. I can't stand JJ's in most modules, but they sound great in the EG5.


(I'm currently borrowing Matt's EG5 and Erect... giving them both a good test drive. MAN, the EG5 is just killer. I need to get one soon...)

+1 I hated JJs in almost everything but love them in EG5. before that I was accidentally running EH and jesus christ those things were shrill and awful.

 

[RockStarNick]

Judging by preamp tube stereotypical characteristics, in an EG5, I'd assume that a tung sol would be very bright and kind thin on the low end, a chinese would be decent but probably mushy in the mids and shrill on top.

JJ, or a good darker, "crunchy" NOS tube (not a JAN 12AX7A... too glasy).

Damn, what a good module. Playing it a TON today. I'm gonna have to get one of these ASAP.

 

[EWSEthan]

Damn, what a good module. Playing it a TON today. I'm gonna have to get one of these ASAP.

Ive been telling you that for months. With this and the TS 5881 fiasco, when will you actually start listening to me?

 

[bstaley]

The EG5 cannot be tamed!!!!

 

[bscfo1]

The EG5 cannot be tamed!!!!

LOL!! Love that!

 

[jmgman69]

The EG5 cannot be tamed!!!!

 

[dfrattaroli]

I say this with all do respect. Turn the knobs. I run treble at 9 or 10 o clock and then play with the mids and the bright switch before moding.

+100

I'm always dialing off treble. None of my Egnater modules, except for maybe the T/D have the treble above noon. They're all from 9am to noon. Then, I use the mids knob to voice the whole shebang.

 

[marvcus]

I say this with all do respect. Turn the knobs. I run treble at 9 or 10 o clock and then play with the mids and the bright switch before moding.

+100

I'm always dialing off treble. None of my Egnater modules, except for maybe the T/D have the treble above noon. They're all from 9am to noon. Then, I use the mids knob to voice the whole shebang.

Man I am a total Mids-nazi. A while back, I heard a stage recording of me with very little mids in my settings/amp in the mix and it sounded AWFUL. Since then, I almost overdial in the mids. All of my friends that I jam with comment on how much mids I use. I am slowly getting better and dialing in more treble, but that experience changed my ears forever.

On my EG5, I think I have the Bass Boost on 1, Bass at 11-12 o'clock, Mids at 2 o'clock, and Treble between 9 and 2 o'clock depending on my mood that day!

 

[Hectic Watermelon]

When I've used the EG5 in my live rig, I find I gravitate towards the EXACT settings Jeff refers to, but in the studio I put the highs up even more so I don't have to add it back with EQ in the mix. I find I am almost always adding highs in a few erogenous zones to ANY amp I record when the mix comes together, but the EG5 is the pretty much the only one that I don't really do this to so much. Basically, I find you will get the best tones to disk if you have the highs as high as possible and the lows as low as possible within a very narrow window of the target tone. Tilting it the other way and trying to add/subtract it back in the mix will not be as effective.

 

[EWSEthan]

I say this with all do respect. Turn the knobs. I run treble at 9 or 10 o clock and then play with the mids and the bright switch before moding.

+100

I'm always dialing off treble. None of my Egnater modules, except for maybe the T/D have the treble above noon. They're all from 9am to noon. Then, I use the mids knob to voice the whole shebang.

Man I am a total Mids-nazi. A while back, I heard a stage recording of me with very little mids in my settings/amp in the mix and it sounded AWFUL. Since then, I almost overdial in the mids. All of my friends that I jam with comment on how much mids I use. I am slowly getting better and dialing in more treble, but that experience changed my ears forever.

On my EG5, I think I have the Bass Boost on 1, Bass at 11-12 o'clock, Mids at 2 o'clock, and Treble between 9 and 2 o'clock depending on my mood that day!

I highly recommend bass boost on 2. Its clutch for the getting the fattest tone out of this module.

 

[mboogman]

After going back in with "fresh" ears, I decided that my brain was not working correctly last Wednesday. Plugged back in on Sunday, and everything sounded great. No tweeks or anything, just a different day. All is right with the world once again. Only now I have a VX module to look forward to to fill out my tonal pallette. Many thanks to JKD.

 

[dfrattaroli]

After going back in with "fresh" ears, I decided that my brain was not working correctly last Wednesday. Plugged back in on Sunday, and everything sounded great. No tweeks or anything, just a different day. All is right with the world once again. Only now I have a VX module to look forward to to fill out my tonal pallette. Many thanks to JKD.

Might not have been your ears. Could just have been your rig that day. Six of one, half a dozen of another. I find the same thing happens to me too. When I reach for the treble and roll anywhere above noon because there isn't enough, I know it's an off day.

 

[bscfo1]

I've actually been using a little more treble these days. Nothing drastic, but I just feel like the modules come alive with a little more of that frequency. It seems to do something to the feel that I've been enjoying lately. I don't use a lot of presense though, and I never let the treble get ice-picky or harsh.

And I never cut the mids. Without these you will be thin and lost in the mix no matter how bright you are. Except for the COD. I can cut the mids and still be heard with that one. Like the EG5, you really need to close your eyes to EQ it. It just "looks" funny.

Most of us are using similar settings for the EG5 to tame the highs. Treble at 9:00 is a great starting point.