Torpedo Configuration

[steve_k]

This Torpedo live could be the best thing since sliced bread...

Up till now, I have been using it with head/cab as a through-put direct to FOH. It does this in spades. I finally got brave enough today to run it with my Diezel D-Moll and also the VH4. I am stunned at what this does for me, and my band mates will be too when we practice tomorrow. With the cab/speaker selection, mic configurations and EQ control, this little box is a winner. We already have the monitor rack set up and the other 3 on IEM's. We have splitters in the rack to go to the Mackie monitor desk (ipad controlled). I can send my send to two RCF active monitors to give me some noise on stage. Through the splitter, the signal passes to the FOH.

Finally, a way to use all my high dollar amps, forget the cabs, hit all the IEM's in the mix and send signal to the FOH. For all us analog guys who want to use our tube heads, but enjoy the advantages of digital, this is the way to go. For the price of this unit, it is a no brainer. And, don't just settle for one cab, set up 3 or 4 and MIDI switch them for a hell of a range of tones up front.

My cabs may become obsolete and being very heavy amp stands. The Axe FX is cool. This is way fucking cooler.....

I am a little late in getting here. But, to the Two Notes guys - you rock....

Steve

 

[romain_gril]

This Torpedo live could be the best thing since sliced bread...

Up till now, I have been using it with head/cab as a through-put direct to FOH. It does this in spades. I finally got brave enough today to run it with my Diezel D-Moll and also the VH4. I am stunned at what this does for me, and my band mates will be too when we practice tomorrow.
(...)
I am a little late in getting here. But, to the Two Notes guys - you rock....

Hey, thank you!
Let us know how the practice goes, and thank you also for the tech specs and feedback. And if you have a video demo where all this can be heard, please do share.

 

[steve_k]

This Torpedo live could be the best thing since sliced bread...

Up till now, I have been using it with head/cab as a through-put direct to FOH. It does this in spades. I finally got brave enough today to run it with my Diezel D-Moll and also the VH4. I am stunned at what this does for me, and my band mates will be too when we practice tomorrow.
(...)
I am a little late in getting here. But, to the Two Notes guys - you rock....

Hey, thank you!
Let us know how the practice goes, and thank you also for the tech specs and feedback. And if you have a video demo where all this can be heard, please do share.

Day 4 using the Torpedo and all is well..... Using my Dlezel amps no problems with extended use. Ran it about 4 hours the other day during practice. Looks like this is the answer to lowering stage volume and feeding a killer signal to the FOH. This could be the ultimate tool for analog meets digital. Now, I want to get another one and set up for two heads A/B/Y - no cabs.

Will shoot some video for the home team. Kick ass, no fuss product. Much appreciated too...

 

[guillaume_pille]

Thank you very much for this feedback, it is always appreciated! ^^

 

[steve_k]

Played the first gig last night with an amp and no cabs. It was absolutely awesome, the stage was quieter, no ambient noise and the quality of sound in the FOH was great. This - thanks to the Two Nites Torpedo Live. Just can't say enough good things about this unit. I was using my new Diezel D-Moll out to the Torpedo and split though our monitor rig to the FOH. I was using two RCF 12NXSA active monitors in front of me split from the Mackie mixer so I had total control of them. The rest of the band was mixed through stage monitors. I spent quite a bit of time EQ'ing the British V30 cab to my liking fed by the Diezel. There were no problems sending signal to the FOH mixer and the soundman loved it. It is so much easier to mix a venue like this without a bunch of stage clutter.

Anyway, if you haven't tried one - it is totally worth it. The Torpedo is a permanent part of my rig for sure. It's certainly a game changer.

Steve

 

[Rogue]

So you used it as a load? Did you feel that it changed the tone and/or feel of your amp much running it this way.

 

[stephen sawall]

Very interesting thread ....

 

[steve_k]

So you used it as a load? Did you feel that it changed the tone and/or feel of your amp much running it this way.

Yeah, used it as a load and DI. I think how much it changes is a function more of what you are running it through for the response. Of course, there's going to be some difference. I didn't have enough time to compare and A/B actual vs. loaded signal, but it was easy enough to get something I liked. In the cave here, I EQ'd it to these FRFR RCF monitors to what I liked and at a decent stage volume. These monitors are so directional that they don't interfere with the stage set up. I had my wireless set up for sound check and was able to step out front and see what things sounded like at the FOH and how it cut in the mix. I was extremely pleased and the only thing I had to do was back off the gains a bit.

Just depends on your goal vs. use. I was bound and determined to find a way to use my favorite amps in the same way as the Axe FX and send me a good signal to my personal stage monitors (I still don't like IEM's), and to send a kick ass signal to the FOH. I would always worry about what was out front. I have tried a Palmer DI, and it is good. But, there are so many tweaks with the digital IR's and mic'ing that you can pretty much dial this up in an infinite amount of ways. Also, I time tested this thing in the cave for practice and just letting it run for hours under load to make sure both the amp and the Torpedo stood up to the task. And, both did. No excessive heat, no tube failures, no issues.

To answer your question though - you don't even notice you are running through any sort of attenuator. That is always the problem with an attenuator. With the Torpedo, it doesn't squash and compress the signal or lose any dynamics. On my Diezel, I was running the channel masters and main master around noon, which would normally blow you off the stage with a cab. This, attenuated back to the -6 to -12 level gave an awesome signal at the monitors and to the FOH. No loss of dynamics here.

 

[Rogue]

Thanks for that. I am interested in the reload and am curious as to how well the two notes load box works. I'm with you on the attenuator, which is why I want to know more about how well this works because it is always at, basically, maximum attenuation. It's good you feel you don't lose much, if anything, using the load of the Live.

Have you tried the RackHero cab? It's an Alien Transformer greenback clone. I think it might be more old school than you'd want for a Diezel, but this cab has become on of my favs.

 

[21_guitars]

RackHero cab?

 

[sysexguy]

RackHero isn't a brand name of a product, it's the name we gave to the Custom Audio Amplification 4x12 cab files we captured.

Andy

 

[Rogue]

RackHero isn't a brand name of a product, it's the name we gave to the Custom Audio Amplification 4x12 cab files we captured.

Andy

Yes. I wasn't sure what else to call it.

 

[steve_k]

Thanks for that. I am interested in the reload and am curious as to how well the two notes load box works. I'm with you on the attenuator, which is why I want to know more about how well this works because it is always at, basically, maximum attenuation. It's good you feel you don't lose much, if anything, using the load of the Live.

Have you tried the RackHero cab? It's an Alien Transformer greenback clone. I think it might be more old school than you'd want for a Diezel, but this cab has become on of my favs.

I don't think anything is lost in it. I was running all the channel masters and main master around noon and gains around 10:00, presence and depth around 11:00. Used the British V30 cab in the Torpedo with a SM57, 3% offset, 0% distance, EQ on with the 120/360 flat and a little bump on the mids and 2K. I had the sound guy set everything flat on the mixer. He ended up bringing the bottom end up a bit. As far as dynamics or anything like that, I didn't notice anything missing.

 

[Rogue]

Cool. I look forward to the release of the Reload. I have an Alex Attenuator and under full load type conditions, the signal becomes pretty impotent for DAW cab sim usage. I'm hoping the Reload eliminates that problem and gives me a good attenuator for doing it the old fashioned way.

 

[steve_k]

Cool. I look forward to the release of the Reload. I have an Alex Attenuator and under full load type conditions, the signal becomes pretty impotent for DAW cab sim usage. I'm hoping the Reload eliminates that problem and gives me a good attenuator for doing it the old fashioned way.

If my goal is to bypass a cab altogether for live use, I don't know what Reload will do for me that Torpedo doesn't. I am thinking of getting a second Torpedo for some switching options with two heads.

Steve

 

[Rogue]

Yeah, the Live would work fine for you, since you have a good MV amp, but with a plexi....got to have an attenuator.

I'm excited that you feel there isn't anything lost with the load.

 

[jlbaxe]

Yeah, the Live would work fine for you, since you have a good MV amp, but with a plexi....got to have an attenuator.

I'm excited that you feel there isn't anything lost with the load.

I would think it would've great with a Plexi or use the VB101 which I think is 150w capable but I'm not sure if I have that right.

I use mine with all my amps with no problem. After 3-5 on the Volume of most amps you are just adding tube gain and not so much watts.

 

[Rogue]

I would think it would've great with a Plexi or use the VB101 which I think is 150w capable but I'm not sure if I have that right.

I use mine with all my amps with no problem. After 3-5 on the Volume of most amps you are just adding tube gain and not so much watts.

Well, I guess I should've said if you want to use your cab. I believe he was using the through on the Live to go to his cab, then kicking the Live to FOH, originally.

I don't gig, but still jam with buds and have to attenuate it. So, if the Reload does well, it'll be a great attenuator AND a good DI for the DAW solution. The Live is probably the better solution if you have a good MV and can use the through to your cab (if you want to use your cab).

 

[jlbaxe]

I would think it would've great with a Plexi or use the VB101 which I think is 150w capable but I'm not sure if I have that right.

I use mine with all my amps with no problem. After 3-5 on the Volume of most amps you are just adding tube gain and not so much watts.

Well, I guess I should've said if you want to use your cab. I believe he was using the through on the Live to go to his cab, then kicking the Live to FOH, originally.

I don't gig, but still jam with buds and have to attenuate it. So, if the Reload does well, it'll be a great attenuator AND a good DI for the DAW solution. The Live is probably the better solution if you have a good MV and can use the through to your cab (if you want to use your cab).

Ah just looked up the Reload. Seems cool and I understand what you mean now. And u can use it with PI 101, which I haven't checked out yet. Cool!

 

[Rogue]

Ah just looked up the Reload. Seems cool and I understand what you mean now. And u can use it with PI 101, which I haven't checked out yet. Cool!

Yeah. I figure worst case and I need to run something FOH, just pick up the C.A.B. and run the Reload amp DI to it and just use it as a load. That would be a bit more expensive than just the Live, but if you need to attenuate and still like using the tried and true cabinet, it would be a nice setup.