Tourmaster issues and poor service

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I have a tourmaster 4100 head and after only a few months of ownership and maybe 6 live shows the Overdrive 1 channel sounds very weak and thin and the only EQ know that works is the treble knob that now acts like a volume control. I have submitted 2 online request from the website and called and talked to Nate 3 times each time I was blown off with a "I need to check with my tech and I will call you right back" Then nothing. It been about 2 weeks now and still no help. Gotta say I am pretty disappointed in the hype and quality of this amp for what I paid for it. I would send it back and never look back if I would not have just missed the 90 return mark by a week. Grrrrrrr. Anyone have any ideas. in looking at the forum it seems to be a pretty common issue but none of the post have a solution except sent back to Egnator and it came beck working.
 
have you tried swapping around preamp tubes v1-v5 with a known good preamp tube?
 
i can try to walk you through some troubleshooting if you wish...
 
Tried replacing preamp tubes with no change. More along the possibility of a bad ground or bad solder joint on the treble pot. Issue is its three months old I dont feel I should have to crack it open to fix it. I could fix it I used to work and design tube amps for St Louis music(Ampeg, Crate etc). Back in the day. I am more complaining about the lack of customer service from Egnater. Three year warranty? I guess that works out for them if they never respond to service request. Put in another request online two days ago and again no call back yet!
 
I don't know if their online form on their website works. I contacted them via that form for advice about my Renegade being very noisy, but heard nothing back. Got advice from fellow Egnater users on here instead. I love my Renegade, but a bit of a response from Egnater would have been nice, since I am a total novice when it comes to sorting problems, and always just handed it to a tech. I wasn't even too confident about changing tubes as I'd never done it before. Everyone on here was super helpful though at least.
 
You will get faster response here. You might try posting on their Twitter feed or Facebook page as well.
 
Len Rabinowitz":3qxx0bcp said:
You will get faster response here. You might try posting on their Twitter feed or Facebook page as well.

this

or find ian egnater.

nate can be.. . elusive...but, as i take it, he's a one man crew over there. but he knows his stuff.

i get your frustrations, i really do. im a tinkerer by nature, and, nothing is good enough for me stock out the box, so, i just figure it's par for my course to have to mess with stuff...but, for people that aren't like that, i get it.

if you "could fix it", why not just give it a shot...you may reawaken your old love of working on tube amps dude? if not, take it back to guitar center?
 
You might try starting a new thread and put Bruce and/or Ian's name in the title. That sometimes gets one of their attention pretty quickly. Lots of companies these days will respond faster to Twitter or Facebook then their regular customer support lines.
 
Tried calling and get a voicemail with no callback. Posted on Facebook and got a response three days later to email Nate. My thing is Everyone says fix it yourself and I could but shouldn't have to! I paid for an Amp with a three year warranty. Might as well be a lifetime warranty if they are not going to homer it. I also hear Nate is the only guy there or he is a one man show and very busy. Then why lie to me and tell me he needs to talk to his techs and get back to me. The amp sounds good but it is not that good. I know if I had to do it again I wouldn't buy it. And have already talked three people out of buying Egnater. And as long as I get no customer support I will continue to talk people out of it. I wish I could take it back but it is just over the 90 day return window and they won't. I tried. I just want it fixed post it on eBay and cut my losses. I need reliable equipment. I have been playing my Bogner for fours no without a hickup. I play this 5 times and it crapps out. 2300.00 waisted.
 
man, im really sorry to hear this....what a bummer. direct message ian or bruce on here. that's what i'd do.

start a thread with "hey ian, nate wont return phone calls" or something like that.

keep hammering them....im confident you'll get something done....they've treated me REALLY well since my TM purchase....yes, service can be slow at times, and that in itself is frustrating. keep hammering at them dude.

where in the hell did you buy this amp for 2300? yeah, i'd say thats kinda high considering the going rate is like 800 for them these days. my amp sounds phenomenal. maybe you're amps problem was contributing to it not sounding great to you also....
 
:thumbsdown:

Recommending that those in need of service should go through this forum as the best and apparently the now preferred method of contact? Really? What if Joe Customer is not lucky enough to stumble upon your sage advice on this forum?

How about Egnater living up to what they are selling as customer service on their website and advertising, and to follow through on what they clearly direct their customers to do in order to maintain warranty coverage?

From the Egnater website - "To initiate a customer service request with Egnater Amplification you must fill out this customer service request form below... Once you have lodged your initial request using this form, a customer support representative will attempt to contact you within 24-48 hours." Egnater still says they have never received any of those emails sent via the Egnater website. I had to submit the customer service form via secondary email. And a response within 24-48 hours? There are multiple stories from users that make that promise a sour punchline. And the joke is on you, Joe Customer.

From the Egnater website - "If a product must be returned to Egnater for warranty replacement/repair, a Return Authorization Number must be obtained from our Customer Service Department prior to shipping the product." After finally (finally - sound familiar?) getting Egnater in Cali to respond to emails as well as the secret decoder ring forum club PMs from this forum, I was told to just "send it in for repair". Literally, that was it. I could have done that without contacting Egnater, yet I had to remind Egnater that the warranty coverage would not be honored without an RA# prior to shipping - as if they did not already know this. Only then did I receive the previously- and through those prior emails, quite specifically - requested RA#.

From the Egnater Website - "Products replaced or repaired under this warranty will be returned via ground shipping within the United States-freight prepaid." On my second repair in two years, Egnater paid nothing for shipping on my last repair covered by warranty. Expecting same from this time. The Tourmaster is not cheap to ship, apparently Egnater knows this as well.

At this time, my amp is in limbo because the authorized repair shop cannot get Egnater to respond to their phone calls. Gee, who to believe on that one? Egnater not returning calls? Maybe the shop has not received the advice about going through the Rig-Talk Forum.

The guy in Cali is the King of his domain, respect him - essentially kiss his ass - or go to the back of the line. NO SOUP FOR YOU!!! :gethim:

Interestingly enough, Ian E. has been responsive and he seems to have a much better attitude. I believe he actually cares. That only goes so far, though, as even Ian will tell you to run it through the King out in Cali. And the King is not a benevolent head of state. He seems to keep score. Even now, if the King happens to be reading this, I cannot help but be convinced that he is thinking of what an a-hole I am, instead of considering that Egnater's customer service should improve and that I - and others - may have been treated with less than stellar service. I fear that this rant could result in more trouble for me and my amp - this is, seriously, why I have not ranted before now. I didn't find that customer service expectation on the Egnater website or sales brochures. It has taken a while to reach this point of frustration, enough to risk the wrath of the Cali King.

Think this is a rant? I could go on and on. I needed this damn amp to make $. The fact that I had to obtain another amp to fill the gap that my practice amp could not...has actually been a bonus. My bandmates tell me that my newly acquired USA made amp is a clear step up in tone in the mix. In the meantime, I am wondering if this experience with Egnater can get any worse.

I just want it to end. I would not put myself in this position again. :doh:
 
TC Don":22ga8s69 said:
:thumbsdown:

Recommending that those in need of service should go through this forum as the best and apparently the now preferred method of contact? Really? What if Joe Customer is not lucky enough to stumble upon your sage advice on this forum?

How about Egnater living up to what they are selling as customer service on their website and advertising, and to follow through on what they clearly direct their customers to do in order to maintain warranty coverage?

From the Egnater website - "To initiate a customer service request with Egnater Amplification you must fill out this customer service request form below... Once you have lodged your initial request using this form, a customer support representative will attempt to contact you within 24-48 hours." Egnater still says they have never received any of those emails sent via the Egnater website. I had to submit the customer service form via secondary email. And a response within 24-48 hours? There are multiple stories from users that make that promise a sour punchline. And the joke is on you, Joe Customer.

From the Egnater website - "If a product must be returned to Egnater for warranty replacement/repair, a Return Authorization Number must be obtained from our Customer Service Department prior to shipping the product." After finally (finally - sound familiar?) getting Egnater in Cali to respond to emails as well as the secret decoder ring forum club PMs from this forum, I was told to just "send it in for repair". Literally, that was it. I could have done that without contacting Egnater, yet I had to remind Egnater that the warranty coverage would not be honored without an RA# prior to shipping - as if they did not already know this. Only then did I receive the previously- and through those prior emails, quite specifically - requested RA#.

From the Egnater Website - "Products replaced or repaired under this warranty will be returned via ground shipping within the United States-freight prepaid." On my second repair in two years, Egnater paid nothing for shipping on my last repair covered by warranty. Expecting same from this time. The Tourmaster is not cheap to ship, apparently Egnater knows this as well.

At this time, my amp is in limbo because the authorized repair shop cannot get Egnater to respond to their phone calls. Gee, who to believe on that one? Egnater not returning calls? Maybe the shop has not received the advice about going through the Rig-Talk Forum.

The guy in Cali is the King of his domain, respect him - essentially kiss his ass - or go to the back of the line. NO SOUP FOR YOU!!! :gethim:

Interestingly enough, Ian E. has been responsive and he seems to have a much better attitude. I believe he actually cares. That only goes so far, though, as even Ian will tell you to run it through the King out in Cali. And the King is not a benevolent head of state. He seems to keep score. Even now, if the King happens to be reading this, I cannot help but be convinced that he is thinking of what an a-hole I am, instead of considering that Egnater's customer service should improve and that I - and others - may have been treated with less than stellar service. I fear that this rant could result in more trouble for me and my amp - this is, seriously, why I have not ranted before now. I didn't find that customer service expectation on the Egnater website or sales brochures. It has taken a while to reach this point of frustration, enough to risk the wrath of the Cali King.

Think this is a rant? I could go on and on. I needed this damn amp to make $. The fact that I had to obtain another amp to fill the gap that my practice amp could not...has actually been a bonus. My bandmates tell me that my newly acquired USA made amp is a clear step up in tone in the mix. In the meantime, I am wondering if this experience with Egnater can get any worse.

I just want it to end. I would not put myself in this position again. :doh:

i dont blame you with ANYTHING you said here.. unfortunately, this seems to be the last bastion of hope...trying to call them out on the forum. if i had it all to do over again, i've have just kept my heartbreaker and learned to do mods and tube swapping on that.

that being said, i chalk it up to a learning experience....a good friend and local hero guitarist around here plays egnater modular gear and he speaks and spoke highly of them. i took that into consideration. i learned a lot from owning the tourmaster, and, hopefully, it keeps running well...

my next amp will be either a mesa again or the fortin i want.
 
I was happy with the Tourmaster I had and love my Renegade. Rebel 30 was a different story. Wasn't so much service as the amp. Noisy, farting tubes, sound fading in and out. Went through three or four of them, swapping tubes, etc... Finally just gave up and bought a Fender for a little grab and go.
 
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