Two notes Reload with which Audio interface

[snejan]

Hey!

Some questions regarding Two notes Torpedo reload and WOS III.

Any one experiencing latency issues with budget audio interfaces or lower spec computers?
Or do you need a high quality audio interface with a monster computer to get low latency?

Some guidelines to products for low latency, recomended specs?

I'm really concerned about the feeling, that there will be some rubberband effect from when I pluck the string until I hear it.

Does WOS III work with Torpedo Live? or why is the software for LIVE missing fun features as multiple cabs simultaneously?


Thx in advance!
English is not my native language, sorry for mistakes in grammar or misspelling.

 

[slash57]

Does WOS III work with Torpedo Live? or why is the software for LIVE missing fun features as multiple cabs simultaneously?

->The Torpedo can output the signal with the cab sim on and off at the same time, if it is connected to the interface via S/PDIF. So if you buy a live, I would buy an interface which has S/PDIF.
If you go this route, you can just monitor your signal with direct monitoring (as the live already has the "finished" sound) and don't have to worry much about latency. Then you can use the raw amp sound track from the live and use WOS III with it.

If you also want or need the reamping capabilities of the Torpedo Reload, then I'd look for a "better" interface (meaning one with better drivers). Which one to get is hard to say, do you use mac or pc?

 

[snejan]

I use PC, and have been looking on Focusrite Scarlett 6i6, which should do the job right?
Im really into the RME-interfaces but dont have the money..

I really like the features that the Reload brings, attenuator for LIVE-gigs and silent playing/recording when home and at a cheaper price.

A combo of both would be ideal

 

[guillaume_pille]

Does WOS III work with Torpedo Live? or why is the software for LIVE missing fun features as multiple cabs simultaneously?

Live is designed to be simple and effective, WoS III can use all the CPU ressources of your computer to offer close to limitless possibilities.

Two very different approches.

And as slash57 wrote, you can send an unprocessed sound (even on the line output) to your computer and process it with WoS III, all the cabinets you have in the Live will be available in WoS III.

 

[slash57]

I didn't like the 6i6, it was too noisy for my taste, but I guess others had better experiences. I used to have a high pitched noise on my DI tracks.
If you don't use it for reamping I think it's great though. The mic pre and line in work fine, it's just that when I directly connected a guitar when I had problems (even with a DI box).

Maybe look if you can order it online and send it back if it doesn't work for you.(I don't know which country you're in, but the online retailer Thomann ships to a lot of countries if you're in Europe and they have a return policy )

 

[snejan]

I didn't like the 6i6, it was too noisy for my taste, but I guess others had better experiences. I used to have a high pitched noise on my DI tracks.
If you don't use it for reamping I think it's great though. The mic pre and line in work fine, it's just that when I directly connected a guitar when I had problems (even with a DI box).

Maybe look if you can order it online and send it back if it doesn't work for you.(I don't know which country you're in, but the online retailer Thomann ships to a lot of countries if you're in Europe and they have a return policy )

Ok very good and useful input to know
I live in Sweden so Thomann is an option.

Do you know any good Audio interface in the same price range as 6i6, that does not share the same problem with the DI?

 

[guillaume_pille]

I would always recommend RME or Motu or anything above 500EUR to get a proper soundcard, but I understand there is a budget issue that needs consideration.

Thus, doing a good reamping with a budget interface is not easy. As I said on another topic, if the crosstalk between I/Os is not low enough, you can expect feedback and other unwanted sounds that will be really hard to get rid of.

 

[snejan]

I would always recommend RME or Motu or anything above 500EUR to get a proper soundcard, but I understand there is a budget issue that needs consideration.

Thus, dong a good reamping with a budget interface is not easy. As I said on another topic, if the crosstalk between I/Os is not low enough, you can expect feedback and other unwanted sounds that will be really hard to get rid of.

Ok but this problem only occur when reamping?
If Im not to use the reamping-feature, and just use it as a silent playing/recording device, will a cheaper audio interface do the job?

It would be very fun/useful to hear what setup all users at this forum use with RELOAD and what results they are getting.
As Slash57 wrote, that the 6i6 was too noisy, then the 6i6 is a no no for RELOAD

Thanks for your input and answers!

 

[slash57]

If you don't reamp, the 6i6 is great. The mic preamps are nice, if you want to mic your amp, and the two headphone outputs are convenient.
You could also save the money and use something like the Scarlett 2i4 and then upgrade later.
What are the specs on your pc? If you have a rather slow pc, I would prefer the Torpedo Live, as the sound is already "finished" when it arrives at the interface. Then you can monitor directly and latency will not affect you.

 

[snejan]

If you don't reamp, the 6i6 is great. The mic preamps are nice, if you want to mic your amp, and the two headphone outputs are convenient.
You could also save the money and use something like the Scarlett 2i4 and then upgrade later.
What are the specs on your pc? If you have a rather slow pc, I would prefer the Torpedo Live, as the sound is already "finished" when it arrives at the interface. Then you can monitor directly and latency will not affect you.

Computer:
ASUS G751JY 17.3" Full HD G-SYNC
Core i7-4720HQ, 16GB RAM

I cant answer your PM, not been active on the site long enough Slash57

"What kind of amp are you using? Are you just starting to record?"
Amp: Marshall 1987x
Cab: Marshall 1960A

I would say restarting to record, it´s been a while since last time.
The amp needs an attenuator since it lacks a master volume, so +1 to RELOAD if I want to use the cab. I already got a jet city amplification jettenuator, but i guess the RELOAD is more transparent and better overall.

As of now it´s leaning towards a Scarlett 2i4 and a reload.
But then again, I like the plug and play of the LIVE.

Hard to choose

 

[slash57]

You're computer is more than capable enough, so no worries there!
As already said, if you don't really want reamping then a cheaper interface like the 2i4 will be enough. The latency is higher, but if you buy the Live you can do hardware monitoring and there will be next to zero latency. If you have the Reload it will probably still be ok, in the worst case if the latency is too big, take advantage of the return policy and get a better interface.

From my own experience the load does make a huge difference, so if you want an attenuator the Reload would be awesome indeed.

Now just throw in some decent studio monitors and you're set