USE SERIES LOOP! ! ! ! ! PETER DIEZEL. . . . .I HEART YOU!

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So I plugged in tonite for an out door show in Minnesota for festival thing (polar plunge, ice fishing contest, skydiving, chilli cook off, disc golf tourney. . . . .etc)
Anyways I used the parallel loop by accident the first set :cry: :bleh: :no: and well yeah I was pretty gross tone. Don't know what the deal was but sounded like a wah was on in a fixed asstone position :aww: I've LOVED, LOVE, LOVED my Einstein every since I got it. Well Peter DAMN, your series loop is FUCKING amazing (sorry to be so profane but I'm REALLY excited about it). I'm sure parallel could have it's place of use, BUT your series loop is BY FAR the best loop I've every had the pleasure of experiencing. After playing others and then using the parallel by accident for a set, yeah series is really that good. I even went home and grab my old cab cause I thought it was that or the power we were using (we played on the lake so we had a generator. . .Weird but really cool event) Anyways I plugged into the series the second set and WHAM! :rock: :rock: :rock: PETER D (and your crew) I cannot thank you enough for doing what you do and taking the path you have. Yeah no questions or anything here on this end. Just me being Sooooooo happy with my tone and spreading the gospel of the BEST amp/tone/sound you can get without buying like 4 amps and having to mic them all and switch between and hual them around and yeah ya know.
O'k, O'k I'l shut up. . .
But DAMN I just LOVE Diezel's. All the tone and sound options under one hood just BLOW'S my mind.
Again Peter D :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: WE'RE ARE NOT WORTH! ! !(as Wayne and Garth would say :lol: )
 
The "wah asstone position" -effect is due to phasing issues. The parallel loop is a mix between dry signal and signal from the loop and if you do not have the effected (wet) signal in parallel loop mixed 100% you will notice this "asstone"-phasing.

Why the parallel loop exists and why it is also preferable in some situation is also due to the same reason (well, not the "asstone"). As when the parallel loop is used there is always also dry, uneffected signal present which will not be the case with serial loop where all of the signal passes through the loop. For example if the AD/DA converters in your FX-unit suck, all of your signal will be also affected. Of course one should not use "bad equipment", but naturally it is not that simple issue.

I also recommend you to try delay and reverb in the parallel loop. Remember to adjust the effect 100% wet and use the pot in your amp to adjust the mix.
 
Thank you so much for the information on the parallel loop, I figured it could be something like that. as for "bad equipment" I don't have any of that. You probably mean "bad" as in broke? But my signal chain is Digitech Loop Station (with a certain group)> TC Electronics 2290> ISP noise gate> Deja Vibe> MXR phaser EVH> Barber Tone Press> Ernie Ball vol. ped. (also have a TC polytune coming out Ernie Ball). Since you had rather good information about the FX loop I'm wondering if I could use the comp. out to run to another amp on the other side of the stage as a monitor for the bass and other guitarist? Or if I could just plug another 8ohm cab into the Eninny. Running one 2x12 w/16 ohm g12-65's wired to 8ohms. I'm also thinking of switching to the new TC G system. Midi seems like the way do go I'm just a HUGE noob when comes to that. But that what the board is for :dunno: right?
 
Yes, asking questions and getting support is exactly what these forums are about. Finding answers and making the solutions available to others as well. :thumbsup:

The "bad equipment" was just one situation in which the parrallel loop is good. I didn't exactly mean broken units, but units that do not have good enough components (esp. AD/DA converters). Even though the equipment would be state of the art I would still put all time-based effects (delay and reverb) to the parallel loop if only possible (often it is not possible). This is simply because I want to keep my signal chain as "pure" as possible. As pretty much all of the current signal processors are digital the signal goes through AD/DA conversion which is usually one of the most significant steps in which the tone is affected. When I am playing guitar I am not playing a computer, but an instrument that creates analog signal not digital "line of bytes" and hence I want keep my signal unconverted the maximum degree. Of course one might argue is the digitalization something one is able to hear or feel in the sound. Also, I think this is a question of what kind of effects one uses - Are the effects desired to be more extreme and radical so the digitalization is not a concern or is someone just adding a slight touch of chorus and reverb to the sound in which case the digitalization might reduce the dynamics.

However, as the other effects (e.g. chorus, flanger, phaser, compressor, etc.) require serial loop it is often the decision wether to use only the serial loop for everything or not to use other than time-based effects. I would say that one needs to experiment and know his/her own equipment so well that knows which works the best.

I am not 100% sure are you able to drive another amp from the compensated out of your Einstein, but I know someone will chime in soon and tell you is it possible. Naturally plugging another cab is one alternative, but you can also split your signal on the way to feed the another amp.

Here on this forum is also quite a lot of conversation about the G-system. Based on my own experiences and the conversation the G-sys. seems to have both, good and bad qualities.
 
Parallel loop is god-like when used effectively and correctly. I pump my stereo DD, 'verb, ambient effects through it. Works like buttah - perfectly.

Just sayin',
V.
 
Use the unused parallel loops send and an additional preamp out sent to another power amp. it works great this way.

I agree peters series fx loop is the best i have ever used hands down.

The parallel is equally as good. Parallel loops get a bad name because of user error. It is about using the right tool for the application.

A parallel loop works wonders if the unit can be set to kill dry or true 100 percent wet. If your amp loop or fx cannot be set to 100 percent wet then they cannot be used in a parallel loop.
 
Yeah, I figured the parallel had it's place I just haven't been there yet cause I was so pleased with the series right away that I didn't even try the parallel! I will have to try the timed and ambient effects in the parallel and see how it sounds. Another set of chords would be the issue there (around ready got my 2 stereo chords for modded FS and 2 for series) so probably wouldn't use it live but recording could be really good. Another question can you use both loops with a midi switching system? Either something by Fractal or TC (G sysytem) or else something by RJM (amp gizmo or effects gizmo) .
 
Thanks Reza hoping you would chime in. I saw your rig before and I LIKE! Bands sounds aweseom too. Thats kinda the direction I was thinking of going. Also anybody have comments on setting the parallel 100% wet on an Einstein? or do you set the pedals all the way wet?
 
DIEZEL RULES

Right now not 5 minutes ago I was playing with my Bogner... I plugged some stuff, delay and reverb in the loop... Horrible volume jumps, tone suck, etc

Diezel has the most transparent loop I've ever ever played in my life. And by the way you've gotta love an amp that sounds wonderful with all knobs at 12 o'clock, unlike the Ecstasy...
 
Pedals all the way wet. Parallel loop to taste. Multiple pedals probably aren't ideal. Single pedal or a processor.
 
I use my Einstein with a GSP 1101, and at first I didn't even bother with the parallel loop. I've used the serial for all my life with all the amps that I had. I loved the tone I got, but always felt there is something that is not quite right, the treble was a bit dirty, and I always atributed that to my speakers or my cab. One day, out of the blue I had the idea to do an A/B test with the processor in the loop (with no effects on) and without it. I could't believe how much clearer the tone was, the exact things that had bothered me were completely gone. Switched everything to parallel, and everything works like a charm now. It's beautiful to have the option.
Regarding one of the OP's questions, you can use the comp out and feed a powered monitor, and it's actually quite a good idea. Don't use the loop send unless you feed a power amp and guitar cab, if you feed a powered monitor with that it will sound really bad and buzzy.
 
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Pedals all the way wet. Parallel loop to taste. Multiple pedals probably aren't ideal. Single pedal or a processor.
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Dude.... Is that avatar your manpod??

Suh-weeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!

V. :rock:
 
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