Vito Bratta tone on Pride

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Does anyone know what amp Vito used on Pride album? The song Hungry? My guess is a boss sd boosted jcm800 ?
 
Well it wasn't the MP-1 -- that was Big Game. If memory serves, it was a goosed Marshall of some sort. I'm sure someone knows what he used.
 
It’s one of Leslie West’s old plexis. Both channels internally jumped together, with a TS 808 out front through 30 watt Celestions. The guitar was an ash bodied Fender strat with a Floyd Rose and either a Duncan JB with a 250K volume pot, or a Duncan ‘59 (I’ve read it both ways). Of course Michael Wagner manning the console helps a ton too.
 
paulyc said:
It’s one of Leslie West’s old plexis. Both channels internally jumped together, with a TS 808 out front through 30 watt Celestions. The guitar was an ash bodied Fender strat with a Floyd Rose and either a Duncan JB with a 250K volume pot, or a Duncan ‘59 (I’ve read it both ways). Of course Michael Wagner manning the console helps a ton too.
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Paulyc I don't know if you have all this shit catalogued but I can always count on you for an answer! Both JCM800 and MP-1 sounds were great, the playing even better. Vito was awesome.
 
Pretty sure it was ADA maybe wrong. Never got it, had one hated it. Vitto and Nuno made it work but Gilbert not so much.
 
panhead said:
Pretty sure it was ADA maybe wrong. Never got it, had one hated it. Vitto and Nuno made it work but Gilbert not so much.
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I think it's because Gilbert cranked the presence and treble all the time. He loved cutting tone. Also didn't work with Wagener back then I don't think.
 
It was my(Michael Wagner) ADA-MP1 guitar pre (still got that one, Software version 1.0, the later version was less noisy but not as cool sounding). The poweramps were McIntosh 2100 transistor poweramps. Even though they were transistor, they have heavy duty output transformers (very important to the sound IMO) and the Condensers (Caps? whatever) in the powersupply are as big as coffee mugs, so lots of low end reserves for the PS. Fletcher has a couple of 2100 for sale, I think. I just sold mine for dirt cheap. The cab we used was rented from Andy Brauer. It was an original Marshall 4x12 with original 30W celestions, I loved that cab.

The funny thing is, that I used the same MP-1, with the same setting/preset, the same poweramps, the same cabinet and the same microphones for White Lion, Skid Row and Extreme and all three sound completely different. Maybe the player DOES have something to do with the sound, hmmm.
 
Pride was not ADA. That started with Big Game. I much preferred his Pride tone. BUT it really doesn’t matter to me what he’s playing through, he was so, so good. Shame he’s disappeared like he has.
 
Chris6870 said:
It was my(Michael Wagner) ADA-MP1 guitar pre (still got that one, Software version 1.0, the later version was less noisy but not as cool sounding). The poweramps were McIntosh 2100 transistor poweramps. Even though they were transistor, they have heavy duty output transformers (very important to the sound IMO) and the Condensers (Caps? whatever) in the powersupply are as big as coffee mugs, so lots of low end reserves for the PS. Fletcher has a couple of 2100 for sale, I think. I just sold mine for dirt cheap. The cab we used was rented from Andy Brauer. It was an original Marshall 4x12 with original 30W celestions, I loved that cab.

The funny thing is, that I used the same MP-1, with the same setting/preset, the same poweramps, the same cabinet and the same microphones for White Lion, Skid Row and Extreme and all three sound completely different. Maybe the player DOES have something to do with the sound, hmmm.
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I always say this "in the hands" and it kicks off a 4 page thread on why I am wrong. I suppose another factor would be the guitar used and pickups. Nuno's Bill Lawrence pups are cutting and very detailed, a JB sort of beefs the mids, and skid row again I think was JB and not sure the body wood but yeah, those are three very different set of "hands".

The only other factor might be mic placement which he did not mention.
 
He’s also not mentioning any of the stuff BEFORE the MP-1, TS 809 or TS-9 for Vito, Rat and/or PQ-3 for Nuno, and IDK what for Skid Row. Try Nuno’s settings (they were on the old ADA Depot site), the gains were like 4.5 each, hardly any gain, fine for rhythm, try soloing on that shit. Better yet, try soloing like Vito or Nuno on that shit. You won’t get far.
 
panhead said:
I swear pornograffitti sounds like a mesa boogie
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When I was a kid, the owner at a guitar store let me play a Marshall JMP-1 preamp through a Mesa Boogie power amp. It sounded very Nuno to me. I remember telling me him that I loved Nuno's tone.. so he said, try this and tell me how you like it. I liked it. Pornografitti also had a BBE sonic maximizer on it for more pop so add that to the recipe too.

I guess we never really know unless there are really good notes taken. I trust Wagner.. but I also trust the PQ-3 as PaulyC mentioned. I really wish someone would reissue that or do that in a pedal. Still waiting on Friedman to do it!
 
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