Volume pedal in effects loop - IRRITATING problem

[spirit7]

Hi all,

Does anyone have any experience running volume pedals through FX loops?

I've just bought an Ernie Ball 6167 (the 25k one - i.e. for use in effects loops or with active pickups). Running it in the series FX loop. Have tried with all my amps (in sig), and in each one it does not get totally silent when fully "up". So annoying. The same thing happened with EB's 250k version.

Anyone know how to get it to completely cut the sound with a volume pedal when it's in the loop? It's driving me totally mad!

-C

 

[RG955TT]

May not be an issue with the pedal but with the amp's loop, may not send 100% of the signal thru the pedal, some of it is bleeding thru maybe. I have used these pedals thru all of my loops without issue, they do turn down 100% off so thats why I'm suggesting it may be the amp. Do you get the same bleed if you don't plug in the return cable to the back of the amp? If so its the amp not the pedal. Good luck

 

[mrkmas]

Hi all,

Does anyone have any experience running volume pedals through FX loops?

I've just bought an Ernie Ball 6167 (the 25k one - i.e. for use in effects loops or with active pickups). Running it in the series FX loop. Have tried with all my amps (in sig), and in each one it does not get totally silent when fully "up". So annoying. The same thing happened with EB's 250k version.

Anyone know how to get it to completely cut the sound with a volume pedal when it's in the loop? It's driving me totally mad!

-C

I think RG955TT is dead on, more than likely bleed through from the loop and not the pedal. What amp are you using? Some amps are notorious for this.

 

[spirit7]

Hi all,

Does anyone have any experience running volume pedals through FX loops?

I've just bought an Ernie Ball 6167 (the 25k one - i.e. for use in effects loops or with active pickups). Running it in the series FX loop. Have tried with all my amps (in sig), and in each one it does not get totally silent when fully "up". So annoying. The same thing happened with EB's 250k version.

Anyone know how to get it to completely cut the sound with a volume pedal when it's in the loop? It's driving me totally mad!

-C

I think RG955TT is dead on, more than likely bleed through from the loop and not the pedal. What amp are you using? Some amps are notorious for this.

It's happening with all my amps - see my sig. At the moment I've tried the XTC 20th, Herbert and VHT and all suffer the same issue. Weirdly, the pedal seems to act like an expression pedal when in the loop: instead of lowering volume, it brings the fx in and out of the mix.

Very odd.

-C

 

[spirit7]

Bump - anyone got any insight on this? I don't think it can be the amps. 3 high quality amp loops all with the same problem? Doesn't make sense.

Thinking I might need an optical pedal...

-C

 

[Giga]

Hi all,

Does anyone have any experience running volume pedals through FX loops?

I've just bought an Ernie Ball 6167 (the 25k one - i.e. for use in effects loops or with active pickups). Running it in the series FX loop. Have tried with all my amps (in sig), and in each one it does not get totally silent when fully "up". So annoying. The same thing happened with EB's 250k version.

Anyone know how to get it to completely cut the sound with a volume pedal when it's in the loop? It's driving me totally mad!

-C

I think RG955TT is dead on, more than likely bleed through from the loop and not the pedal. What amp are you using? Some amps are notorious for this.

It's happening with all my amps - see my sig. At the moment I've tried the XTC 20th, Herbert and VHT and all suffer the same issue. Weirdly, the pedal seems to act like an expression pedal when in the loop: instead of lowering volume, it brings the fx in and out of the mix.

Very odd.

-C

It seems to me you have set up the loops of the amps to be parallel then. Set the loops for serial operation and you should be fine.

Giga

 

[spirit7]

Hi all,

Does anyone have any experience running volume pedals through FX loops?

I've just bought an Ernie Ball 6167 (the 25k one - i.e. for use in effects loops or with active pickups). Running it in the series FX loop. Have tried with all my amps (in sig), and in each one it does not get totally silent when fully "up". So annoying. The same thing happened with EB's 250k version.

Anyone know how to get it to completely cut the sound with a volume pedal when it's in the loop? It's driving me totally mad!

-C

I think RG955TT is dead on, more than likely bleed through from the loop and not the pedal. What amp are you using? Some amps are notorious for this.

It's happening with all my amps - see my sig. At the moment I've tried the XTC 20th, Herbert and VHT and all suffer the same issue. Weirdly, the pedal seems to act like an expression pedal when in the loop: instead of lowering volume, it brings the fx in and out of the mix.

Very odd.

-C

It seems to me you have set up the loops of the amps to be parallel then. Set the loops for serial operation and you should be fine.

Giga

Nope - the Herbert has separate serial and parallel loops and I'm definitely using the serial. Bogner has a serial / parallel switch and it's in serial mode.

I am at a loss.

-C

 

[guitarmike]

Try a different pedal. If the amps are fine then look at the pedal. Does it behave this way in front of an amp?
I have had metro loops that must blend some dry signal through even though they are serial because when i turn on my tuner (boss tu-2) it does not kill all volume yet in the front of the amp it is silent.

 

[Badronald]

My Triple Rec loop is 90% mix so a little volume comes through as well. But its designed that way.
The only thing I don't like about the amp.

 

[spirit7]

Try a different pedal. If the amps are fine then look at the pedal. Does it behave this way in front of an amp?
I have had metro loops that must blend some dry signal through even though they are serial because when i turn on my tuner (boss tu-2) it does not kill all volume yet in the front of the amp it is silent.

In front of the amp it kills all volume. Very odd. I'll try it with my Powerball (use a Boss GT-6 through the loop of that and the pedal kills all volume) this weekend and see if that works.

Profoundly irritating.

-C

 

[RG955TT]

Make sure you have the send and return going in and out of the pedal in the correct jacks. I use mine in the loop of my 20th XTC with no issue, you can hear the slightest bit of bleed but its barely audible. Also make sure your channel masters/sends (which are the send volume for the channels in the loop) arent set too high, that might cause it as well. I keep my channels set between 10-11 oclock, no higher and use the return for overall volume setting.

 

[Giga]

You could also try the one cable method; use only the fx send into pedal return (sometimes into pedal input).

Another possibility is that the pot inside the pedal isn't in the correct position in/on the string.

Giga