We can be good guys or we can be the guys that save the world......... We can't be both......

[The~Kid]

Increasingly this seems to be the case and not so much when it comes to saving the world but just over common sense issues it seems. It seems increasingly we live in a world where being "the good guys" means sacrificing ones quality and standard of life, agreeing with the latest far left woke nonsense no matter if it makes sense or not and abandoning all common sense and critical thinking in order to be one of the "good guys" and woke crowd on the far left....


How can those on the far woke left pretend to be "the good guys" when the world and the countrys gone to shit for most when it comes to the average standard of life and living....... thanks mainly to them and their policies over the last 5-10 years.......




Why is the country shit? Oh yeah because of the pandemic and how the far woke left drove the narrative and how the pandemic was mishandled. Now we know quarantines and lockdowns while well intentioned didnt do a damn thing and the same number of people would have died more or less or been infected with or without them......... data and numbers prove so straight from the National Health Institute. As a result todays youth has never been lower educated than any generation since the 70s..... everyone's standard of life has never been lower on average in modern times with no real sign of looking to get better for most on average since WWll.......


https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8083719/



If being one of the "good guys" means ignoring reality, real science and common sense in favor of woke BS and nothing else I'm out as someone who voted for Obama twice, Hillary and Biden...... it's been fun but yeah being one of the "good guys" doesn't mean what it used to and the "good guys" really aren't "the good guys" anymore nor do they do any actual good either.



Not necessarily a choice between being a "good guy" and "saving the world" but a choice between the wrong choice and in a sense the right choice or correct choice and essentially common sense choice is a choice those on the far woke left or "the good guys" just won't do or come to understand or view in any manner anymore.


Quote taken from Cecil in Invincible Season 3*

 

[Wetordry]

What's your point?

 

[JackBootedThug]

 

[JTyson]

Well, at this point we can definitively say that ideals that live in the heads of the left don’t translate out in the real world without masses of people making a willful decision to participate in the delusion and totally deny the reality of the results they see around them…

Turns out the answer is NO..
Go fuck yourself …
We are done with your bullshit.

 

[VonBonfire]

If being one of the "good guys" means ignoring reality, real science and common sense in favor of woke BS and nothing else I'm out as someone who voted for Obama twice, Hillary and Biden

 

[67mike]

 

[The~Kid]

What's your point?

Kind of just a shift in what a "good guy" is or the typical "good guys" from my perspective and the left or "progressives" now rabid woke zombies apparently.


The "good guys" have never really been more worse, less good or more bad.


Being on the left myself or center left for me all the far woke left shit is just too much. Increasingly more and more those like me who aren't woke as hell get cast aside by the "good guys" or those who are mega woke on the far left. Apparently if your not woke enough you have to be canceled fuck common sense or basic decency anymore...... those things don't matter to the woke in the far left.......



Case in point TGP and the far left woke BS crowd there that has taken over and the cancel culture going on there and other places. Members getting banned/suspended for BS not even having to do with breaking rules or anything and simply getting reprimanded for having a different point of view.



Recently got a ban/suspension for wishing well to people in LA after the fires being in OC my heart definitely goes out to LA....... apparently the topic in general was deemed too political in general because far left woke folks would always make an issue about anyone talking about the fires it seems for whatever reason even though its just a tragedy that should unite people instead of tear them apart....... I mean in the meantime you have all these other woke fucks there going on about politics, extraterrestrials, conspiracies and other tin foil hat shit with zero repercussions.




At some point you just need to call Out the BS and how the "good guys" just aren't the good guys anymore not just on social media or forums but just in general nvm TGP. The "good guys" just aren't the good guys anymore and increasingly more and more they are doing what the bad guys do or at the least ignorant to common sense or able to follow through with common sense things which is just as bad as a bad guy or worse.

 

[Findthetone1]

Jesus, your posts should come with chapters

 

[The~Kid]

To another point......




When center left folk like me can find more common ground over sensible common sense issues with those on the far right or center right crowd vs the far left and the woke crowd.......





It makes one realize just how full of shit the woke "good guys" on the far left are nvm the far left woke crowd at TGP.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Kind of just a shift in what a "good guy" is or the typical "good guys" from my perspective and the left or "progressives" now rabid woke zombies apparently.


The "good guys" have never really been more worse, less good or more bad.


Being on the left myself or center left for me all the far woke left shit is just too much. Increasingly more and more those like me who aren't woke as hell get cast aside by the "good guys" or those who are mega woke on the far left. Apparently if your not woke enough you have to be canceled fuck common sense or basic decency anymore...... those things don't matter to the woke in the far left.......



Case in point TGP and the far left woke BS crowd there that has taken over and the cancel culture going on there and other places. Members getting banned/suspended for BS not even having to do with breaking rules or anything and simply getting reprimanded for having a different point of view.



Recently got a ban/suspension for wishing well to people in LA after the fires being in OC my heart definitely goes out to LA....... apparently the topic in general was deemed too political in general because far left woke folks would always make an issue about anyone talking about the fires it seems for whatever reason even though its just a tragedy that should unite people instead of tear them apart....... I mean in the meantime you have all these other woke fucks there going on about politics, extraterrestrials, conspiracies and other tin foil hat shit with zero repercussions.




At some point you just need to call Out the BS and how the "good guys" just aren't the good guys anymore not just on social media or forums but just in general nvm TGP. The "good guys" just aren't the good guys anymore and increasingly more and more they are doing what the bad guys do or at the least ignorant to common sense or able to follow through with common sense things which is just as bad as a bad guy or worse.

I'm glad you've opened your eyes to the hypocrisy and cancel culture of the far left, but everything your saying is old news to the rest of us. The right has been calling out the increasingly nonsensical crap from the left for over a decade.

 

[The~Kid]

I'm glad you've opened your eyes to the hypocrisy and cancel culture of the far left, but everything your saying is old news to the rest of us. The right has been calling out the increasingly nonsensical crap from the left for over a decade.

Yeah I mean it's been going on for a while now but the levels of BS and standards of Woke BS have reached new heights.



It used to be for example one could talk about common sense things like fires for example the fires in Hawaii but nowadays unless you have a narrow woke point of view on said topics or any topic no one can talk about it or have a different point of view outside of woke BS...... talking about the fires and wishing folk in LA well and other common sense issues no longer falls in line with woke BS standards at TGP or what once used to be common sense




It shouldn't be like that and well TGP was always like that to an extent but in the middle ground or pretended to be but now it's pretty apparent the forum is being taken hostage and has been taken hostage by the far left woke crowd and the like. Same folks who brought you the woke Disney/StarWars BS be the same crowd at TGP it seems.......



It used to be a forum where there was some room for people with different points of views and beliefs to come and discuss about common sense issues, shoot the shit or geek out on gear but it just isn't that place anymore thanks to the far left woke crowd and par for the course in 2025........ No other point of view outside of woke BS is acceptable in 2025 at TGP apparently and if you don't share such narrow views or pretend to get ready for the cancel culture BS because it's very apparent and in full throtle......





Rig Talk is that place and the place now and has been for sometime and well yeah nvm the noise and BS and it feels good to be here, not worry about woke BS or other dumbass shit and just shoot the shit and have a good time ^_^

 

[The~Kid]

I'm glad you've opened your eyes to the hypocrisy and cancel culture of the far left, but everything your saying is old news to the rest of us. The right has been calling out the increasingly nonsensical crap from the left for over a decade.

Yeah I mean it's been going on for a while now but the levels of BS and standards of Woke BS have reached new heights.



It used to be for example one could talk about common sense things like fires for example the fires in Hawaii but nowadays unless you have a narrow woke point of view on said topics or any topic no one can talk about it or have a different point of view outside of woke BS...... talking the fires and wishing folk in LA well no longer falls in line with woke BS or what once used to be common sense




It shouldn't be like that and well TGP was always like that to an extent but in the middle ground or pretended to be but now it's pretty apparent the forum is being taken hostage and has been taken hostage by the far left woke crowd and the like. Same folks who brought you the woke Disney/StarWars BS be the same crowd at TGP it seems.......



It used to be a forum where there was some room for people with different points of views and beliefs to come and discuss about common sense issues, shoot the shit or geek out on gear but it just isn't that place anymore thanks to the far left woke crowd and par for the course in 2025........ No other point of view outside of woke BS is acceptable in 2025 at TGP apparently and if you don't share such narrow views or pretend to get ready for the cancel culture BS because it's very apparent and in full throtle......





Rig-Talk is the place now and has been for sometime and well yeah nvm the noise and BS and it feels good to be here, not worry about woke BS or other dumbass shit and just shoot the shit, talk, hang out and have a good time ^_^

 

[Thumbpicker]

TGP has been woke for years and years.

"The Pub" there is a trap. They say no politics is allowed yet they have a place for general discussion. That's always going to be a paradox. Nearly everything is political from some angle.

You need to realise it makes no sense to say anything there at all.

Gotta disagree re: lockdowns during the pandemic. In Australia where we behaved we had a death rate of about 1/10th of yours because we waited for vaccines. The USA does not get to define the narrative because their experience is not everyone's experience. The lockdowns failed in the US because people didn't follow them properly and everyone ran around saying freedumb! It's against your national psyche to care about the public interest over individual freedoms. The science says the vaccine worked. If you caught it the vaccine made the symptoms a lot milder. You just have a lot of bullshit on social media saying otherwise due to conspiracy theories in the US and confirmation bias.

Fine have you individual freedoms at the expense of public heath but then wear losing 1.1 million people.

Also as I've said many times here the US polliticised COVID because you can't help yourselves

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Yeah I mean it's been going on for a while now but the levels of BS and standards of Woke BS have reached new heights.



It used to be for example one could talk about common sense things like fires for example the fires in Hawaii but nowadays unless you have a narrow woke point of view on said topics or any topic no one can talk about it or have a different point of view outside of woke BS...... talking the fires and wishing folk in LA well no longer falls in line with woke BS or what once used to be common sense




It shouldn't be like that and well TGP was always like that to an extent but in the middle ground or pretended to be but now it's pretty apparent the forum is being taken hostage and has been taken hostage by the far left woke crowd and the like. Same folks who brought you the woke Disney/StarWars BS be the same crowd at TGP it seems.......



It used to be a forum where there was some room for people with different points of views and beliefs to come and discuss about common sense issues, shoot the shit or geek out on gear but it just isn't that place anymore thanks to the far left woke crowd and par for the course in 2025........ No other point of view outside of woke BS is acceptable in 2025 at TGP apparently and if you don't share such narrow views or pretend to get ready for the cancel culture BS because it's very apparent and in full throtle......





Rig-Talk is the place now and has been for sometime and well yeah nvm the noise and BS and it feels good to be here, not worry about woke BS or other dumbass shit and just shoot the shit, talk, hang out and have a good time ^_^

Like I said, that shit has been going on for over a decade now. The difference is more people are finally seeing it for what it is.

It only seems like it's reached new heights because you've been entrenched in it for so long that you didn't notice. Now that you see it for what it really is it's a holy shit moment for you. The rest of us have been calling it out for a long time now. We were the ones being shouted down and called conspiracy theorists, racists, and nazis.

The one thing that is different and reaching new heights is the TDS and media meltdowns because they're not in charge anymore. They've been fully exposed to the public and can't control the narrative anymore.

 

[Thumbpicker]

I am happy Trump is fighting DEI and wokeness. I've had a gutful of it.

That part of his agenda I am cheering on and hope it rubs off here.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Thread does not deliver. Would not read again.

 

[japetus]

 

[The~Kid]

TGP has been woke for years and years.

"The Pub" there is a trap. They say no politics is allowed yet they have a place for general discussion. That's always going to be a paradox. Nearly everything is political from some angle.

You need to realise it makes no sense to say anything there at all.

Gotta disagree re: lockdowns during the pandemic. In Australia where we behaved we had a death rate of about 1/10th of yours because we waited for vaccines. The USA does not get to define the narrative because their experience is not everyone's experience. The lockdowns failed in the US because people didn't follow them properly and everyone ran around saying freedumb! It's against your national psyche to care about the public interest over individual freedoms. The science says the vaccine worked. If you caught it the vaccine made the symptoms a lot milder. You just have a lot of bullshit on social media saying otherwise due to conspiracy theories in the US and confirmation bias.

Fine have you individual freedoms and the expense of public heath but then wear losing 1.1 million people.

Also as I've said many times here the US polliticised COVID because you can't help yourselves

Honestly being real while I get what your saying it really hasn't been woke IMo and IME and more in the middle but IMO due to them going corporate, some folks who founded it leaving and the new woke left BS crowd...... TGP used to be in the middle but not anymore and it just ain't what it used to be and full on Woke-Town. TGP has become TWP or The Woke Page in 2025.



Yeah I mean maybe should have said here in the US lockdowns and quarantines while well intentioned didnt have the desired effects intended and with or without them here there would was little to no effect per the hard data/numbers.



I feel vaccines worked and I was one of first to take them to get back to work and feel safe I was going to be protected, I also encouraged my family to get vaccinated and we all did. I didn't wait around for unemployment to end and I got my ass back to work ASAP to do my part.


People have different points of view on the subject and maybe had everyone done as in Australia it would have been different, maybe not as both are entirely different countries too relative to population density, proximity of people etc etc. The point is here in America it didn't work as intended for whatever reason the same number of folks would have died or been infected regardless with or without quarantines or lockdowns.....



The results.....



A less educated and more retarded youth that can't even read or do basic levels of maths or at least to a lower level since any generation since the 70s on average.......every generation before since the 70s has been smarter than the previous generation year after year, decade after decade until now and the far left Woke BS crowd........




The lowest standard of living and life on average and set to go lower in modern times...... we haven't had lower standards of living since WWll in modern times thanks to the far left woke BS crowd......




Abandoning common sense, real maths and science for woke left BS cancel culture....... thanks to the far left woke BS crowd.......




The pandemic could have been handled differently here in America and the way it was handled mainly driven by narratives on the woke left resulted in all the bullshit most Americans have to struggle with on a daily now......




From being able to afford a fancy bagel, to a fancy gallon of milk to a fancy dozen of eggs........





America ain't what it used to be and we can largely thank all the crowd and BS from the far woke left even now after they have lost the last election and finally lost all forms of power from the White House, to the Senate or the House.

 

[japetus]

Honestly being real while I get what your saying it really hasn't been woke IMo and IME and more in the middle but IMO due to them going corporate, some folks who founded it leaving and the new woke left BS crowd...... TGP used to be in the middle but not anymore and it just ain't what it used to be and full on Woke-Town. TGP has become TWP or The Woke Page in 2025.



Yeah I mean maybe should have said here in the US lockdowns and quarantines while well intentioned didnt have the desired effects intended and with or without them here there would was little to no effect per the hard data/numbers.



I feel vaccines worked and I was one of first to take them to get back to work and feel safe I was going to be protected, I also encouraged my family to get vaccinated and we all did. I didn't wait around for unemployment to end and I got my ass back to work ASAP to do my part.


People have different points of view on the subject and maybe had everyone done as in Australia it would have been different, maybe not as both are entirely different countries too relative to population density, proximity of people etc etc. The point is here in America it didn't work as intended for whatever reason the same number of folks would have died or been infected regardless with or without quarantines or lockdowns.....



The results.....



A less educated and more retarded youth that can't even read or do basic levels of maths or at least to a lower level since any generation since the 70s on average.......every generation before since the 70s has been smarter than the previous generation year after year, decade after decade until now and the far left Woke BS crowd........




The lowest standard of living and life on average and set to go lower in modern times...... we haven't had lower standards of living since WWll in modern times thanks to the far left woke BS crowd......




Abandoning common sense, real maths and science for woke left BS cancel culture....... thanks to the far left woke BS crowd.......




The pandemic could have been handled differently here in America and the way it was handled mainly driven by narratives on the woke left resulted in all the bullshit most Americans have to struggle with on a daily now......




From being able to afford a fancy bagel, to a fancy gallon of milk to a fancy dozen of eggs........





America ain't what it used to be and we can largely thank all the crowd and BS from the far woke left even now after they have lost the last election and finally lost all forms of power from the White House, to the Senate or the House.

So you admit you were part of the problem and regret it?

 

[The~Kid]

I am happy Trump is fighting DEI and wokeness. I've had a gutful of it.

That part of his agenda I am cheering on and hope it rubs off here.

Honestly when it comes to stuff like that while there is merit there in some respects some of it makes sense or is understandable or well there are some folks in lower incomes both white, black or from minorities in general or otherwise and whatever circumstance that don't have a chance at higher opportunities for whatever reason or higher forms of education...... equity shouldn't discriminate on any level from that sense when it comes to education IMO. Kids in America deserve the best the country can offer no matter what their color or background is especially if they have potential.



And this is coming from a guy who says either reform or get rid of the Department of Education and a sensible standpoint.


IMO in general aside from DEI which is seeming to look like a lost cause, an effort should be made to identify people or groups black, white or polkadot or whatever that are undervalued so to speak that need or deserve help or assitance vs looking at someones race or color as a determining factor as to why they are receiving help.




There are plenty of kids out there with a lot of promise and potential and kids in general stupid or smart deserve an opportunity at a good education and a chance at life but maybe for those who stand out and are undervalued efforts should be made to foster their education and ability to fulfill their full potential. Because ImO their success is Americas success.



I really do feel Americas youth and children in America today deserve better in terms of education and IMO that is the most important thing or one the most important things today that not many really care about aside from using as some political football most of the time on average.