What is the point of non-Egnater amps?

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I'm being somewhat serious here.

I mean it's cool to go all "Chinpokomon - gotta buy 'em all!" but really, nothing can hang with a fully loaded M4, Mod100, or Mod50. nothing.

I have so many preamps because of the novelty factor, and because I'm bored with life.

If I played out 25 times per month instead of 3, I would probably only own an M4 with a killer power amp (seminar head fx return would work just fine) and a killer delay.


Why in the hell do I buy all of the other pointless shit? Some other stuff is nice, but it usually doesn't sound as pleasing, and it's usually not as feature-laden. :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:
 
I think there are a lot of bedroom wankers out there that have a certain sound in their head (probably their guitar hero's tone) and they need to buy every amp out there to see if they can find it. I will never understand the guys that spend $4000 on a new rig just to sell it for $3600 two weeks later when it's "not what they're looking for". Sure, I'd love to have the cash to blow on having every amp out there just to make a sweet looking music room, but I don't. I'd like to think of myself as a working musician that needs certain equipment to do my job. I have a K.I.S.S. attitude regarding my live rig because in the end I'm the one hauling it, setting it up and using it... Until I get a roadie. :rock: :lol: :LOL:

In short, the Egnater amps are the cat's ass and if more people opened their eyes (and ears) to the fact that they are 100% utility matched with top notch quality and a quite reasonable price point, the backlog would be thousands deep and the world would be a better place. :yes:
 
Agreed. I've had my Mod for almost a year now and I have zero desire to get another amp (except the Rebel of course!!). I've never been this satisfied with an amp. But when I mention them in threads about "suggestions for amps", my posts pretty much get passed over. I just can't believe how good it sounds every time I plug in.
 
I'm a HUGE egnater aficionado, but by that same statement you can say why doesn't everyone just play an axe-fx? I can see saying why aren't they more popular, used etc, but to go as far as saying what is the point of any other amp out there, well that just seems a bit extreme?

Undoubtedly egnater is hands down one of the most versatile systems out there. Not just in only in terms of the range of tones available, but also tones available at any single time via selecting a new channels; Some amps can have a range of sound within a channel, but it's not realistic that you're going to be drastically tweaking between sounds, so there's not much arguing there.

I also think they sound fantastic, and I'm in love with my rig! loud volumes, bedroom, ease of use etc. and with the egnater two very different players can own and love the same amp; but that doesn't mean others can't be happy with different gear. Some people don't want or need a lot of sounds at once. Some just want something that specializes in getting an exact sound, even if it's the only sound it can get, and there's nothing wrong with that as long as they're happy with it. I mean some people even sell eganters after trying them, and that's okay. Some people prefer the randall versions to the smoother top end of the egnaters.

Gotta take finances into account too. I think most people on this board would agree that egnaters are an outstanding value (myself included), but for some 2k+ is over their budget for a head and want something below 1,500, bellow 1,000, or even closer to 500-600 dollar range.

For me, Egnaters have made me not even consider or look at any other amps, because I can get all the sounds and versatile out of this rig and it's dead easy to use (I hate having to tweak!). Also the sounds DON'T at all feel like a compromise: I can have my cake and eat it too! Still, I can see why a blues player would be just fine with a small fender combo and maybe tubescreamer. It doesn't mean the egnater line is bad or can't replace it (hell it might even sound better!), be more reliable etc, but what they have works just fine for them.

All the other companies can go ahead and make amps, it doesn't bug me one bit because all I care about is my egnater. These things really are a dream come true for me! :rock:
 
My thoughts on this are simple...the amps help me express nearly every bit of my artistic personality without hoping from amp to amp. Some people just enjoy having their tonal worlds organized between physically different amps. The Egnater stuff sounds like a world class amp. That said, I think it is a bit of hyperbole to say that they are the best, as there are some amazing highly-specialized amps out there and tastes are subjective, yada-yada. But until you can afford the luxury to buy five or more different amps ranging from $1,000 to $3,500+ and the extra gas and manpower to haul them all around, it's just not going to get better than the Egnater solution if you need a diverse collection of world-class tones. PERIOD. I have to come back to my first point about the expressiveness of the amps, this is what makes doing clisp of them so difficult - as every player is really going to sound exactly like himself with these amps. They don't dominate/overpower your sound. When I play a new amp, I don't think, whooaa, man that sounds just like the Eric Johnson tone! I enjoy it when it just feels like an extension of myself, and I feel like I own the sound.
 
I'm still in the honeymoon phase, being that I just got an M4 about 2-3 weeks ago, so I won't talk out of school yet.

I was waiting for the Rebel to come out and somehow my impatience turned into an M4 with
four modules and the purchase of two 1x12 cabs. :D

What I can say is that, so far, I am very impressed by the modules' ability to emulate the juju of the amps they represent. I have never played a vintage Super Lead, but I have played a 1968 Super Bass at ear bleeding levels. I know what Jimmy Page sounds like, too. Even with 6L6s and 1x12 cabs, I can hear and "feel" the sound as if it WAS a Super Lead based off of what I've heard. The other modules follow suit, as well. It has satisfied my want for the Fender Clean/Marshall/Soldano Overdrive amp that SO many players want and so many amps claim.

I admit, I have gone through many other amps to arrive here, and sold those amps for seemingly for either (1) boredom, (2) didn't like a channel, or (3) stupidity. I went Egnater to cure my GAS.

The only rig more versatile in my opinion would be having a Twin, Deluxe, SLO, 1959SLP, AC-30, etc.

That said, the one problem the Egnater brings (unwittingly) to me is I'd LOVE to have a correct speaker/cab for each module: JBLs for T/D; Celestion Blues for VX, Greenbacks for SL, EVM 12L for COD, etc.

Maybe Egnater should make a 4x12 cab consisting of those speakers and others wired where you can access/assign to modules one at a time, if wanted. Blues for Vox, JBL for Fender, etc., all in a 4x12 package--like four mini 1x12s. :thumbsup: ;) That would be crazy...
 
The only 'problem' per-se with the modular stuff is it brings out my ADD...gotta have as many modules as possible and spend more time turning knobs than playing ;)

I've been pimping this stuff ever since I stumbled across the early NAMM video of the Randall stuff....bought some MTS gear, sold it again chasing other tones....found out by accident that Mr Egnater had a hand in designing it....bought some more MTS stuff...it was years before I could afford any (used) Egnater stuff but again, it's outstanding and really bad for my ADD ;)

The MOD50/M4 is really hard to beat but the Randall stuff compliments it nicely..slightly different voicings/component choices..it's all good :rock:
 
All I know is that I have spent thousands of hard earned dollars on way too many amps trying to find something that didn't exist. It's really a shame I spent so much time and money with nothing to show for it., When I found the modular Egnater gear, I realized that it was easier to sound like the what I heard in my head---Me....which is what I wanted in the first place. It helps me express myself musically because quite honestly, it's inspiring to play when what is coming out of the speakers sounds so good. Never been happier with how I sound. I consider my Eggie gear more like an instrument than an amp. Kinda like that favorite guitar that you would never part with.
 
muudrock":3n8fkqpi said:
It helps me express myself musically because quite honestly, it's inspiring to play when what is coming out of the speakers sounds so good. Never been happier with how I sound. I consider my Eggie gear more like an instrument than an amp. Kinda like that favorite guitar that you would never part with.

Amen brotha ;)
 
John Czajkowski":3p3h1ul7 said:
muudrock":3p3h1ul7 said:
It helps me express myself musically because quite honestly, it's inspiring to play when what is coming out of the speakers sounds so good. Never been happier with how I sound. I consider my Eggie gear more like an instrument than an amp. Kinda like that favorite guitar that you would never part with.

Amen brotha ;)
+ 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 :D
Did I say I love the Eggs!!!!!
 
muudrock":38da1fjq said:
When I found the modular Egnater gear, I realized that it was easier to sound like the what I heard in my head---Me....which is what I wanted in the first place.

Exactly!!!
 
I was just sucking face with a gorgeous babe. I must lend the success to my Egnater gear even though it was 100% acoustic.

seriously, My M4 has made me a different person,


She and I might get married. :lol: :LOL:
 
I agree with pretty much everyone in here. Ive owned a few amps over the years, some of them pretty pricey and Im a finicky bastard. In general, I get bored with things after they lose their "new" factor. But I have had the MOD 50 for almost 2 years now and I have NEVER thought about selling it. I always had doubts or things I didnt like about every other amp I have ever had, but not this one. Its the best tone Ive ever had, with the best features, the most flexibility, is built like a tank, and looks great. Oh, and did I mention its half the price of an SLO? Which comes with only 2 channels and a broken FX loop? So, I ask you....With Eganter, whats not to like?!?

Also, the modular thing is great because I listen to tons of different music and get inspired by lots of different sounds. If I want to jam out to stuff that is Tool inspried, great, pop in E-Rect. Some old school straight up riff-based rock, pop in SL2. If I want to get super heavy and/or attempt to shred my brains out, pop in EG5. Oh, and if I want a dead ringer tone and feel for a Two Rock, pop in COD and boost channel A with a BB Preamp. I would need 4 amps to do this otherwise.

There is nothing on Earth that sounds and feels this good to play. And I agree with everyone else, this is the first amp I feel at home playing through, where I sound like ME. I get lost in the moment playing this amp. I dont want to or try to sound like anyone else. And that my friends is a beautiful thing.
 
I agree on the whole budget thing. Some people looking for an amp under $1K can't really afford to spring for a Mod50 half stack.

But THAT being said, I'm looking at my Mod50 purchase as a *future* moneysaver. Because from now on, if I want a different amp down the road, I only need to spend $400 or so, not $2500-3500 every time. Which is just awesome.
 
RockStarNick":3tx8p35j said:
But THAT being said, I'm looking at my Mod50 purchase as a *future* moneysaver. Because from now on, if I want a different amp down the road, I only need to spend $400 or so, not $2500-3500 every time. Which is just awesome.


+1!!!!!!!

Ain't it beautiful? :rock:
 
After playing through an Egnater one time I was sold. They just do everything you could ever want an amp to do. If you can get the tone you are looking for out of an Egnater, it's probably not out there.

Below sums up my relationship with Egnater.

Me :emofag: :grim: Egnater
 
RockStarNick":11vhftvj said:
I agree on the whole budget thing. Some people looking for an amp under $1K can't really afford to spring for a Mod50 half stack.

But THAT being said, I'm looking at my Mod50 purchase as a *future* moneysaver. Because from now on, if I want a different amp down the road, I only need to spend $400 or so, not $2500-3500 every time. Which is just awesome.

What's great about that now getting a completely new sound doesn't require you to go through the hassle of putting your old amp on ebay, dealing with that, getting a new one shipped etc. Allows you to slowly build up your tone palette pretty painlessly and at whatever pace you set.

I also have to agree with what Matt was saying, about how other amps can make you leave you wishing it had a bit less hair, or maybe a slightly better clean, or maybe a more pleasant grit etc..well now I don't have to worry about getting one sound to do it all, and can set up each module to shine at that specialty. So now when i want a sound I like, but not enough to say buy a whole amp devoted to that one trick, I can have my satisfaction without the hassle.
 
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