which cabinet for a herbert ( home - bedroom use )

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hello which cabinet do you suggest me to get ( diezel apart ) for a home use with the herbert head?
i'd like to get a 1 - maximum 2 speakers cab.

i'm considering to get a common marshall 1912 ( 2x12 cab ).

has anyone try the herbert with this 2 x 12 marshall cab?

is it a good choice?
some amps sound better with a specific cab, others don't, so i need all the advices as possible
thanx :)
 
I just want to warn you that 2x12s & 4x12s are very noticeably different soundwise.

Basically you need something with V30s. Something oversized Bluesbreaker style is a plus.
 
Go with an Orange 2x12, I have one loaded with V30's and it's a monster good tone. Worth the 700 bucks IMO. Obviously, your best bet will to try out a bunch of cabs with your amp to see what you like the best.
 
Marshall has a cool 2x12", not the 1936 and not the "cheap", but the "TSL-combo-extension-cab". That has a V30 and a Heritage speaker - and sounds IMO amazing.

Also when you have a look at https://www.thomann.de you can find V30s equipped Harley Benton cabs for low prices . . .
 
thank you very much, so any cab but with V30s right?
why don't the 1936? i'm curious :doh:

talking about the sound, are the 2 options you mentioned ( harley benton and marshall )so different?i don't care about the look for cabs.
spending much on a Herbert, if i could save a bunch of euros for the cab that wouldn't be bad :)
this not getting a low quality cab of course.


then, is this http://www.musik-produktiv.com/ site a good place to buy from? can you people suggest me a cheaper one?


last an important question...the harley benson speakers are 120W output, the marshall is 140W. i read cabs must support more than the output power of the amp, so using an Herbert it would be a problem as it is 180W i guess. i read from a wrong place or it is true?
 
180 on the Herbie is peak wattage - cranked. The average output is much less, but if you ever want to crank it you better get a cab that can handle it.

Don't buy a Porsche 911 and ask for VW Beetle tires...just a thought...
 
diezel&gas":17g69m3p said:
thank you very much, so any cab but with V30s right?
why don't the 1936? i'm curious :doh:

1 ) talking about the sound, are the 2 options you mentioned ( harley benton and marshall )so different?i don't care about the look for cabs.
spending much on a Herbert, if i could save a bunch of euros for the cab that wouldn't be bad :)
this not getting a low quality cab of course.


2 )then, is this http://www.musik-produktiv.com/ site a good place to buy from? can you people suggest me a cheaper one?


3 ) last an important question...the harley benson speakers are 120W output, the marshall is 140W. i read cabs must support more than the output power of the amp, so using an Herbert it would be a problem as it is 180W i guess. i read from a wrong place or it is true?
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First of all V30s are 60W, so 2x12 will be 120.

Second, my Uberschall is 120wt & when I have all the knobs about 12:00 I really don't like to be in the same room with it. By the time I get 120wts out of it I'll probably loose my hearing. Unless you are planning to have your cabinet & head in separate rooms I think you should be fine. However theoretically blowing up your speakers wouldn't be a problem.
 
At home you won't go any higher than 25 Watts normally - and thats deafening :D

If you are scared, pull a pair or two . . .
 
ok thanx, i thought it could damage the speakers just powering on the amp. :)
abd what about Diezel dealers on internet?
do you know other sites to buy from? cheaper than the 1 i wrote above?
thanx
 
and what about the cabs brands? are the harley benton with V30's 2x12 good compared to a 2x12 w/2V30's marshall?is that big the difference on the sound?
 
Since you've asked for bedroom volume, I'd say you'll hardly notivce big differences as long as the speakers are the same.

Marshall is birch with a crap-wood backplate, HB is birch (I guess with a crapwood backplate too) and f.i. the Engl is MDF - "Mitteldichte Faserplatte" (chip-wood or something in english) - cheapest stuff available, full with glue, but for cabs (at higher volumes) one could like its "non-resonant" abilities.
 
so can i temporarily get a quite cheap harley benton without felling a huge differecne from a marshall, isn't it?
or is it too bad sounding compared ?

then later i could sell it and get a better one...
i don't car eif it looks bad..atthe moment i need a good cab that sound good :)
 
then quality apart, why almost everyone uses V30's on Diezel amps? do they sound perfectly or is it just a matter of music styles and taste you guys play?

are the V30's still good for heavy, modern-dirt sounds?
thanx
 
diezel&gas":29fjrkw2 said:
so can i temporarily get a quite cheap harley benton without felling a huge differecne from a marshall, isn't it?
or is it too bad sounding compared ?

then later i could sell it and get a better one...
i don't car eif it looks bad..atthe moment i need a good cab that sound good :)
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The HB is made somewhere in eastern europe, its quality is as good as Marshalls, just with a different sticker. Keep in mind that 2 Vintage cost the same as the whole cab ;)

If it shouldn't fit your needs (I would install casters f.i.) you could throw it away, keep the speakers and buy a good empty cab - have a look:

http://www.tt-cabs.com/tt_produkte/index.html

V30s are IMO good for most styles - rock, harder, heavy, insane - they have a pretty huge upper-mid peak in the beginning. Their bass is pretty strong, so they can handle Diezels "deep" circuitry well - and last but not least - Peter designes (most of) his amps around V30s speakers.

But as I've said: the combinations (as in the Marshall cab) is very cool too, esp. when you use lots of effects, so I prefer a combination V30s with G75Ts or Classic Lead 80s for very FX-loaded sounds - still the V30s is "perfect" for almost everything IMO.
 
i have to chose between these 2 cabs...and chosing how much to spend too... :yes:

marshall TLS 2x12 with 2 different speaker mix ;) interests me a lot...

or the

cheaper Harley Benton 2x12 with 2 V30's.

if i get a very good sound from the marshall, i'd hope to keep it for years, while if i get the cheaper Harley and its sound will be noticeable poor..i'll replace it with a better one...after a while
 
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