Which module sounds most like Carvin Legacy?

[rynnce]

I've tried SL2 and EG3/4 and neither was spot on but the EG3/4 was closer. Interested in other opinions.

Thanks
Rob

 

[EWSEthan]

I dont have an answer for you, but was wondering what the Legacy has that the modules are lacking?

 

[rynnce]

I dont have an answer for you, but was wondering what the Legacy has that the modules are lacking?

None of the egnater modules I played lacked anything (for sure), I'm just looking to have the Legacy tone at hand as well as Fender (T/D) and Marshall (SL2). I don't have the egnater amp & modules yet but was able to set up an appointment to try them out at the Amp Lounge. That being the case I haven't spent any time trying to cop the Legacy tone with the SL2. If I can't I'd like to know what module comes the closest.

Rob

 

[guitarslinger]

Actually, I've played a Legacy once, and my IE-4 sounds pretty dang close.

If the EG 3/4 isn't close enough, I don't know what to tell you.

Maybe, try different power section with your EG 3/4.

I agree the SL2 doesn't sound THAT close to the EG 3/4 or the Legacy. The SL2 has some "aww" sound in it that isn't present in the EG 3/4. I still love mine.

just my opinion. All of them are awesome.

 

[muudrock]

Actually there is a module that comes close..
First generation single channel EG3 module is very close. I had a Legacy when I first got my MOD100 and the EG3 with EL34's is very close. Has the same warm/darkness vibe top end. The dual channel EG3/4 sounds quite different. If you can find and single EG3, they can be had for a good price.

 

[EWSEthan]

Yeah I would have thought EG3 since Legacy is known to not be somewhat high gain and rather dark. Just couldnt really advise since Ive never played a Legacy. Interesting to know. Ive heard the Legacy is a very good amp for the price.

 

[rynnce]

Actually there is a module that comes close..
First generation single channel EG3 module is very close. I had a Legacy when I first got my MOD100 and the EG3 with EL34's is very close. Has the same warm/darkness vibe top end. The dual channel EG3/4 sounds quite different. If you can find and single EG3, they can be had for a good price.

Thanks, muudrock. That's great info. I'll be on the lookout for the EG3.

 

[rynnce]

Yeah I would have thought EG3 since Legacy is known to not be somewhat high gain and rather dark. Just couldnt really advise since Ive never played a Legacy. Interesting to know. Ive heard the Legacy is a very good amp for the price.

Yes, the Legacy is a little darker than any Marshall amp. The lead tone is amazing but lacks in the riffing dept (IMHO). It just has a low freq growl that is amazing for leads. The egnater mods were great too, just different.

 

[EWSEthan]

It just has a low freq growl that is amazing for leads.

Thats probably because its designed to try sound like a Bogner Ecstasy.

 

[guitarslinger]

Also, try the Randall XTC mod.

 

[jlbaxe]

Ok so a Carvin Legacy is sort of designed after a Bogner Ecstasy ? So we have Fender, starting out the valve amplifiers (particularly the Twin Reverb classic) which got tone equalization spot on right from the start. Noted in early years for excellent clean and brown sounds. Then Marshall an English design which copied some aspects of the American Fender design, but ultimately used EL34 output valves (instead of Fender?s 6L6GCs). The results were excellent brown and overdriven sounds. Then Mesa for their hot-rodded Fender designs with flexible pre-amplifier overdrive and tone-shaping options. , vox was designed from modded organ amplifiers, Matchless, highly borrowed circuit from a Vox in 1989 as our four main amp companies then we have Bogner who did mods on EVH's Marshall and built his own amps. So what i am asking is, are most amp companies based on theses four or so amp companies modifying these circuits? With Fender And Vox being the 2 original amps that circuits are borrowed from. any Info or ideas are highly welcomed.

 

[rynnce]

It just has a low freq growl that is amazing for leads.

Thats probably because its designed to try sound like a Bogner Ecstasy.

Yes, but definitely worth the $800 for the head.

 

[guitarslinger]

Ok so a Carvin Legacy is sort of designed after a Bogner Ecstasy ? So we have Fender, starting out the valve amplifiers (particularly the Twin Reverb classic) which got tone equalization spot on right from the start. Noted in early years for excellent clean and brown sounds. Then Marshall an English design which copied some aspects of the American Fender design, but ultimately used EL34 output valves (instead of Fender�s 6L6GCs). The results were excellent brown and overdriven sounds. Then Mesa for their hot-rodded Fender designs with flexible pre-amplifier overdrive and tone-shaping options. , vox was designed from modded organ amplifiers, Matchless, highly borrowed circuit from a Vox in 1989 as our four main amp companies then we have Bogner who did mods on EVH's Marshall and built his own amps. So what i am asking is, are most amp companies based on theses four or so amp companies modifying these circuits? With Fender And Vox being the 2 original amps that circuits are borrowed from. any Info or ideas are highly welcomed.

Marshall didn't get its tone from the EL34's. A Marshall still sounds VERY Marshally with 6L6's. The Fenders have an inherent design flaw (In my opinion) in that the tone stack is pre-gain. The Mesa Mark series shares this flaw, thus the bass knob has to be on zero in the mark series amps and quad/studio/triaxis preamps. Marshall revolutionized preamp design by doing all of the EQ after the gain. = awesome overdrive sounds, not muddy.

 

[RockStarNick]

Gslinger, that is really cool info. never knew that before.

 

[aeroic]

Ok so a Carvin Legacy is sort of designed after a Bogner Ecstasy ? So we have Fender, starting out the valve amplifiers (particularly the Twin Reverb classic) which got tone equalization spot on right from the start. Noted in early years for excellent clean and brown sounds. Then Marshall an English design which copied some aspects of the American Fender design, but ultimately used EL34 output valves (instead of Fender�s 6L6GCs). The results were excellent brown and overdriven sounds. Then Mesa for their hot-rodded Fender designs with flexible pre-amplifier overdrive and tone-shaping options. , vox was designed from modded organ amplifiers, Matchless, highly borrowed circuit from a Vox in 1989 as our four main amp companies then we have Bogner who did mods on EVH's Marshall and built his own amps. So what i am asking is, are most amp companies based on theses four or so amp companies modifying these circuits? With Fender And Vox being the 2 original amps that circuits are borrowed from. any Info or ideas are highly welcomed.

Marshall didn't get its tone from the EL34's. A Marshall still sounds VERY Marshally with 6L6's. The Fenders have an inherent design flaw (In my opinion) in that the tone stack is pre-gain. The Mesa Mark series shares this flaw, thus the bass knob has to be on zero in the mark series amps and quad/studio/triaxis preamps. Marshall revolutionized preamp design by doing all of the EQ after the gain. = awesome overdrive sounds, not muddy.

This is exactly right! It's why I loved the JCM 800 amp . I used to use the JCM 800 as my main power amp for a LONG LONG time. I had it modded to add a post gain / pre-eq effects return. This would allow me to use the EQ and the power section of the amp, but bypass the gain section! What an awesome idea . Got the idea from the Silver Jubilee Marshall's as their effects loop return was pre-EQ. It's awesome allowing you to be able to tweak your tone w/ bass, mids, and highs before going to the power section.

When I found the VHT though, I needed not do that .

Eric

 

[jkdsteve]

Actually there is a module that comes close..
First generation single channel EG3 module is very close. I had a Legacy when I first got my MOD100 and the EG3 with EL34's is very close. Has the same warm/darkness vibe top end. The dual channel EG3/4 sounds quite different. If you can find and single EG3, they can be had for a good price.

Thanks, muudrock. That's great info. I'll be on the lookout for the EG3.

http://mtsforum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?t=5136

 

[rynnce]

Actually there is a module that comes close..
First generation single channel EG3 module is very close. I had a Legacy when I first got my MOD100 and the EG3 with EL34's is very close. Has the same warm/darkness vibe top end. The dual channel EG3/4 sounds quite different. If you can find and single EG3, they can be had for a good price.

Thanks, muudrock. That's great info. I'll be on the lookout for the EG3.

http://mtsforum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?t=5136

Thanks for the heads up.