tfridgen
Well-known member
Looking at both of these. I play some metal(Mastodon, Metallica, Soulfly), some hard rock(think Audrey Horne), like my cleans squeaky. Which one would you choose and why?
Ancient Alien
Active member
UL by far for several reasons.
The cleans are "squeaky", low and mid gain will chew your face off and high gain will exterminate small countries.
And no matter what, they retain clarity without mudding out.
With the 6 band EQ and other features like edge, shift and boost, you have dozens of tone sculpting features.
Every Wizard I've played including the Metal just sounds like a modded JCM 800/Plexi.
They have horrible cleans to me, and a weird mid thing going on.
They are great at what they do, but they kinda only do one thing whereas the UL can do just about everything.
YMMV
The cleans are "squeaky", low and mid gain will chew your face off and high gain will exterminate small countries.
And no matter what, they retain clarity without mudding out.
With the 6 band EQ and other features like edge, shift and boost, you have dozens of tone sculpting features.
Every Wizard I've played including the Metal just sounds like a modded JCM 800/Plexi.
They have horrible cleans to me, and a weird mid thing going on.
They are great at what they do, but they kinda only do one thing whereas the UL can do just about everything.
YMMV
Greazygeo
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I had both at the same time....The UL won't do what the Wizard does and the Wizard won't do what the UL does....Best way I can describe the Metal is it's rhythm channel cranked is Highway to Hell tone....Lead Channel is Back in Black tone....The UL is a modern sounding amp. Both amps are great.
tfridgen
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I think I'm leaning towards the UL, I definitely like the idea of having something modern sounding. I really wasn't sure that the Wizard could get me into metal territory and it sounds like it won't. Thanks fellers!
johnnyjellybean
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Ancient Alien":ezzbjrwb said:
You've obviously never had one at home for very long because the Wizard (The MC anyway) has one of the best cleans I've ever recorded or heard and the gain channel sounds absolutely nothing like a modded Marshall. I've recorded more records from country to hard rock and everything in between with a Wizard Modern Classic and it did it all well.
Here's a tune I did in 2009 using the Wizard Modern Classic for the cleans.......now sound is a subjective thing but if you think the cleans in this tune are horrible then you better have your ears checked out.
tfridgen
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johnnyjellybean":25jcwxdr said:
Ya man!!! Cleans sounded great!!! I really think that when it comes down to it, I'm a metal guy at heart and want to be able to have a certain level of brutal if I want it.
Inca Roads
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Steve, Beautiful clean tone and playing!!!^^^^
You Rock Man
I've owned them both and I think we're comparing apples
to oranges. Both amps have their own completely different
thing goin' on. Let me start by saying that both are High Quality
Over the top built, professional tone machines in every sense!!!
The Wizard is its own entity entirely. Doesn't sound like another
amp, but if you had to put a label on it, it would be somewhere in the
High gain Marshallesque realm VS an Engl that does the Modern
Metal tone in spades. If you put a clean overdrive pedal
in front of the Wizard, you can melt the paint off of any
wall in the room. But it's not a dirty, compressed Recto
metal tone, it's a loud, clear, open gainy type of overdrive.
The VHT kicks all sorts off ass too, but in its own fashion.
Very tight, focused and unforgiving that can do the Metal Punch
with little effort. The UL has such a unique tone, that I honestly
can't compare it to any other amp other than a VHT.
Both amps have a great clean (But who gives a shit about that)
This is Rig-Talk, give me a High Gain face melter any day!
I think You'd be happier with the UL for the immediate, Metal gratification.
With the graphic EQ on board, you can dial in many Metal tones.
Think Dr. Feelgood and Primal Scream tone by Motley Crue
Pretty sure that was Mick's VHT era..... but don't quote me.
It's a sick tone either way.
You Rock Man
I've owned them both and I think we're comparing apples
to oranges. Both amps have their own completely different
thing goin' on. Let me start by saying that both are High Quality
Over the top built, professional tone machines in every sense!!!
The Wizard is its own entity entirely. Doesn't sound like another
amp, but if you had to put a label on it, it would be somewhere in the
High gain Marshallesque realm VS an Engl that does the Modern
Metal tone in spades. If you put a clean overdrive pedal
in front of the Wizard, you can melt the paint off of any
wall in the room. But it's not a dirty, compressed Recto
metal tone, it's a loud, clear, open gainy type of overdrive.
The VHT kicks all sorts off ass too, but in its own fashion.
Very tight, focused and unforgiving that can do the Metal Punch
with little effort. The UL has such a unique tone, that I honestly
can't compare it to any other amp other than a VHT.
Both amps have a great clean (But who gives a shit about that)
This is Rig-Talk, give me a High Gain face melter any day!
I think You'd be happier with the UL for the immediate, Metal gratification.
With the graphic EQ on board, you can dial in many Metal tones.
Think Dr. Feelgood and Primal Scream tone by Motley Crue
Pretty sure that was Mick's VHT era..... but don't quote me.
It's a sick tone either way.
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