XTC with an UberKab.... Details Please

[Ventura]

Anyone run a later model XTC through a 4x12 UberKab?

Thanks,
V.

 

[RedB4Black]

Anyone run a later model XTC through a 4x12 UberKab?

Thanks,
V.

I did. But I changed the T75 to H30s. Sounded very good.

 

[Ventura]

Thanks!
V.

 

[Les Zombie]

I had a 2005 xtc 101b and a 2008 xtc classic and I liked both amps with the uberkab.

 

[Ventura]

Thanks for this Gents... I'm asking because I'm really not into carting around another cab - so if I pull the trigger on the 20th Anniversary XTC, I'd prefer to run it through my UberKab. An OS 2x12 could work, but then there goes another kilobuck just for matchy-matchy syndrome. Know what I mean? Considering the last OS 2x12 I ordered came with 1 x GT75 and 1 x V30, my guess is it's almost a mini-version of the UberCab. If I went with a 2x12, I'd probably want something completely different, maybe 2 x Celestion Gold Alnico, or some Tone Tubbys.

Peace,
V.

 

[reverymike]

I use a uberkab with my 101b and it sounds great. I thought for awhile I wanted to get rid of it for a standard V30 bogner 4x12, but a couple gigs ago, I was soundchecking and my God, it sounded outstanding. . .so I'm not as in a hurry to get a standard Bogner 4x12.

Although, I'll probably get one eventually.

 

[TheMagicEight]

I use a uberkab with my 101b and it sounds great. I thought for awhile I wanted to get rid of it for a standard V30 bogner 4x12, but a couple gigs ago, I was soundchecking and my God, it sounded outstanding. . .so I'm not as in a hurry to get a standard Bogner 4x12.

Although, I'll probably get one eventually.

If you didn't already know, the only difference between the standard and Uberkab is grill color and speaker type. It would be a hell of a lot cheaper to swap the two G12T-75s for V30s than swap cabs entirely.

 

[Ventura]

I use a uberkab with my 101b and it sounds great. I thought for awhile I wanted to get rid of it for a standard V30 bogner 4x12, but a couple gigs ago, I was soundchecking and my God, it sounded outstanding. . .so I'm not as in a hurry to get a standard Bogner 4x12.

Although, I'll probably get one eventually.

If you didn't already know, the only difference between the standard and Uberkab is grill color and speaker type. It would be a hell of a lot cheaper to swap the two G12T-75s for V30s than swap cabs entirely.

And....AND... I do have to interject here - I was UNDER the presumption that this was INDEED the case, however, I was corrected, in that, the UberKab, albeit sharing identical dimensions with that of the 'standard' Bogner 4x12, is actually front loaded, versus the standard cab's rear loaded. As per Rob @ TM, in one of these relatively recent threads, he did say, tonally, "unless you're going to be doing more extreme metal with the Ecstasy, the rear loaded, V30 equipped cab is better sounding with the XTC [sic]". So, ya, I was the one that pulled out the tape measure and realized the two boxes were identically sized. Then I thought why would Bogner re-machine and go through the CNC process to produce a NEW cabinet for ONE head in their lineup. It didn't add up, didn't make sense. So I posted my findings, and, well, as above, apparently the front loading on the UberKab does wonders for more of a metal genre and higher-gain signal than the more, shall we say, potentially "organic" sounds that of the rear loaded, standard cab.

Marketing.

However, I do know that rear loaded and front loaded cabs - same size, even SAME DRIVERS - do sound immensely different. So I'll give the benefit of doubt to Rob and Reinhold and the rest of the Bogner crew in their rear loaded with XTC, front loaded with Uber pairings.

V.

 

[TheMagicEight]

And....AND... I do have to interject here - I was UNDER the presumption that this was INDEED the case, however, I was corrected, in that, the UberKab, albeit sharing identical dimensions with that of the 'standard' Bogner 4x12, is actually front loaded, versus the standard cab's rear loaded. As per Rob @ TM, in one of these relatively recent threads, he did say, tonally, "unless you're going to be doing more extreme metal with the Ecstasy, the rear loaded, V30 equipped cab is better sounding with the XTC [sic]". So, ya, I was the one that pulled out the tape measure and realized the two boxes were identically sized. Then I thought why would Bogner re-machine and go through the CNC process to produce a NEW cabinet for ONE head in their lineup. It didn't add up, didn't make sense. So I posted my findings, and, well, as above, apparently the front loading on the UberKab does wonders for more of a metal genre and higher-gain signal than the more, shall we say, potentially "organic" sounds that of the rear loaded, standard cab.

Marketing.

However, I do know that rear loaded and front loaded cabs - same size, even SAME DRIVERS - do sound immensely different. So I'll give the benefit of doubt to Rob and Reinhold and the rest of the Bogner crew in their rear loaded with XTC, front loaded with Uber pairings.

V.

True, though it depends on the Uberkab. Only in the past year have they started making them front loaded. I kind of assumed reverymike's was a RL cab; if it's FL, then yes, there's a much bigger difference.

 

[reverymike]

There is also a difference in speakers. I would actually have to get four 16 ohm V30s. The V30s in the Uber are 8 ohm.

 

[Death by Uberschall]

There is also a difference in speakers. I would actually have to get four 16 ohm V30s. The V30s in the Uber are 8 ohm.

Get two more 8 ohm speakers and wire it for 8 ohms (two speakers wired in series run parallel with the other two speakers wired in series).

 

[Ventura]

There is also a difference in speakers. I would actually have to get four 16 ohm V30s. The V30s in the Uber are 8 ohm.

Not necessarily true - correct me if I am wrong, but I think the speakers are wired in series parallel...?? Meaning 2 series speakers in parallel with another series pair??? i think????

Just guessing.

V.

 

[reverymike]

I'm pretty sure that I'd need 4 16 ohm speakers in order to duplicate the standard cab. Not sure about wiring.

 

[Ventura]

I'm pretty sure that I'd need 4 16 ohm speakers in order to duplicate the standard cab. Not sure about wiring.

Yes. This is correct - wattage adds up when in series (well, for all intent and purpose) whereas impedance remains the same. So, 4 50W speakers at 16ohm a piece in a 4x12 would yield 200W at 16ohm. If it's stereo/mono you're looking for, you need a bridge socket and do the 2 series of 2 parallel speakers.

8ohm won't hurt either, so long as they're all the same.

V.