Yngwie Malmsteen heads - best tab for Far Beyond The Sun?

[halford]

I know there are alot of differences between all the tabs out there,, which one is most acurate?

preff in guitar pro

Thanks if you can help

 

[Echoes]

I have a Hal Leonard tab book that is accurate note wise but not the actual way Yngwie plays the phrases...he tends to draw the phrase out along the fingerboard instead of vertical as most of these books tend to depict them...also, Yngwie plays a ton of slurs and skips notes that are inferred but not actually played because the line goes by so fast...the books tend to write out ALL of the notes in these instances where Yngwie 'cheats' to get it done.

 

[70strathead]

I know there are alot of differences between all the tabs out there,, which one is most acurate?

preff in guitar pro

Thanks if you can help

The most accurate Malmsteen tabs I've seen are the old Young Guitar Mags that I think u can find on ebay. Those Japanese don't mess around!

 

[halford]

I have a Hal Leonard tab book that is accurate note wise but not the actual way Yngwie plays the phrases...he tends to draw the phrase out along the fingerboard instead of vertical as most of these books tend to depict them...also, Yngwie plays a ton of slurs and skips notes that are inferred but not actually played because the line goes by so fast...the books tend to write out ALL of the notes in these instances where Yngwie 'cheats' to get it done.

ah ha!

this is what i have noticed between all the different versions.

i guess il just pick one and go for it.

Thanks guys

 

[Shawn Lutz]

IMHO tabs always seem to be inaccurate as far as positioning on the fretboard. The best bet is to have the standard notation along with the tab. That way you at least know if somethign doesnt look right in tab you can find out by looking at the music. I have the Hal publioshing Yngwie book..its ok but I found myself transposing them to fit my technique...I ofter wonder if folks who tab out that stuff ever played guitar before

 

[Echoes]

IMHO tabs always seem to be inaccurate as far as positioning on the fretboard. The best bet is to have the standard notation along with the tab. That way you at least know if somethign doesnt look right in tab you can find out by looking at the music. I have the Hal publioshing Yngwie book..its ok but I found myself transposing them to fit my technique...I ofter wonder if folks who tab out that stuff ever played guitar before

well, I have the tabs for a number of his 'songs' (if you can call them that) and the actual notes are correct or near so (I mean how many ways can you traipse through the harmonic minor scale?) but I have footage of the guy and during some of the passages I would slow it down and watch how how plays them, and in most cases he doesn't play it the way the tab notates it but, as I pointed out earlier, he plays the passages along 7-10 frets instead of up and down in one position...sounds the same, but not many (including me, nor do I care to) can play Yngwie up to speed.

 

[Gainzilla]

well, I have the tabs for a number of his 'songs' (if you can call them that) and the actual notes are correct or near so (I mean how many ways can you traipse through the harmonic minor scale?) but I have footage of the guy and during some of the passages I would slow it down and watch how how plays them, and in most cases he doesn't play it the way the tab notates it but, as I pointed out earlier, he plays the passages along 7-10 frets instead of up and down in one position...sounds the same, but not many (including me, nor do I care to) can play Yngwie up to speed.

I used to run through sections of that song faster than he did back in the day( when I was really obsessed with speed) and its true, Tabs , while accurate in notes , arent necessarily accurate on the particular fret or phrase... For instance YJM does alot of linear runs in a horizontal fashion where I would break them up into a series of vertical runs...

I know the better part of the Neal Schon discography and there are many Schon/Journey tunes that I do that dont look anything the way Neal plays them and in many cases, that tab is different from the both of us.. Funny Stuff.. I think hte prevailing mindset should be that there is more than one way to skin a cat when it comes to playing guitar and in the end if it sounds good, it is good...

 

[Gainfreak]

It has been my experiance that 99.9% of all the tabs on the net and most published are inaccurate by a wide margin. I remember when Steve vai used to transcribe for the magazines and he was pretty dead on. It's kind of a lost art form now.

 

[thiswaythatway]

It has been my experiance that 99.9% of all the tabs on the net and most published are inaccurate by a wide margin. I remember when Steve vai used to transcribe for the magazines and he was pretty dead on. It's kind of a lost art form now.

When my friend was at GIT in 1989 he had a class with Paul Gilbert and Paul brought in a magazine with Scarified in it. He told me Gilbert was showing how wrong the tab was because even Gilbert couldn't play the licks up to speed with the way they had it tabbed

And I'm a firm believer that if you play a lick using the same notes, but in different positions that it will in fact sound different, but i bet you and your refined ear would say the same thing. An open G sting doesn't sound the same as the 5th fret of the D string playing the G note. The note sounds the same, but the tone is slightly different.

 

[70strathead]

I know there are alot of differences between all the tabs out there,, which one is most acurate?

preff in guitar pro

Thanks if you can help

Hey dude, if u really want the accurate fingering/transcribtion buy this:

https://cgi.ebay.com/YNGWIE-MALMSTEEN-YG ... dZViewItem

i still have some these from the late 80's early 90's and like I said the positioning is really accurate to how Yngwie plays it...like Cage stated, horizontal/linear patterns especially with extended arpeggios and ascending/descending lines. But u may come up with and easier pattern that suits u. Yngwie is an economy player both left and right hand, but some people are just not comfortable in that form of execution. good luck and eat your swedish meatballs before u plug in!

 

[70strathead]

It has been my experiance that 99.9% of all the tabs on the net and most published are inaccurate by a wide margin. I remember when Steve vai used to transcribe for the magazines and he was pretty dead on. It's kind of a lost art form now.

When my friend was at GIT in 1989 he had a class with Paul Gilbert and Paul brought in a magazine with Scarified in it. He told me Gilbert was showing how wrong the tab was because even Gilbert couldn't play the licks up to speed with the way they had it tabbed

And I'm a firm believer that if you play a lick using the same notes, but in different positions that it will in fact sound different, but i bet you and your refined ear would say the same thing. An open G sting doesn't sound the same as the 5th fret of the D string playing the G note. The note sounds the same, but the tone is slightly different.

That's an extremely valid point Danyeo. Uli Jon Roth and Eric Johnson have both expressed that!

 

[Gainfreak]

It has been my experiance that 99.9% of all the tabs on the net and most published are inaccurate by a wide margin. I remember when Steve vai used to transcribe for the magazines and he was pretty dead on. It's kind of a lost art form now.

When my friend was at GIT in 1989 he had a class with Paul Gilbert and Paul brought in a magazine with Scarified in it. He told me Gilbert was showing how wrong the tab was because even Gilbert couldn't play the licks up to speed with the way they had it tabbed

And I'm a firm believer that if you play a lick using the same notes, but in different positions that it will in fact sound different, but i bet you and your refined ear would say the same thing. An open G sting doesn't sound the same as the 5th fret of the D string playing the G note. The note sounds the same, but the tone is slightly different.

I would definitely agree with you 100%

 

[Gainfreak]

I know there are alot of differences between all the tabs out there,, which one is most acurate?

preff in guitar pro

Thanks if you can help

Hey dude, if u really want the accurate fingering/transcribtion buy this:

https://cgi.ebay.com/YNGWIE-MALMSTEEN-YG ... dZViewItem

i still have some these from the late 80's early 90's and like I said the positioning is really accurate to how Yngwie plays it...like Cage stated, horizontal/linear patterns especially with extended arpeggios and ascending/descending lines. But u may come up with and easier pattern that suits u. Yngwie is an economy player both left and right hand, but some people are just not comfortable in that form of execution. good luck and eat your swedish meatballs before u plug in!

 

[Gainzilla]

And I'm a firm believer that if you play a lick using the same notes, but in different positions that it will in fact sound different, but i bet you and your refined ear would say the same thing. An open G sting doesn't sound the same as the 5th fret of the D string playing the G note. The note sounds the same, but the tone is slightly different.

Absolutely but I thought that is was common knowledge especially when Chording...

 

[Shawn Lutz]

I agree as well, there are more than one way to get you there, if it sounds right it is right

I really never cared for playing a cover songs exactly the same way the original guitarist played it. I change a lot positionings that cater to the way I play....to my technique.

Theory and your ear will help you a lot when you get a part of a tab that isnt making sense. For Yngwie stuff, just knowing the scales he uses...the harmonic minor (as was mentioned), melodic minor, minor, & diminished will help get you there.

 

[Echoes]

I used to run through sections of that song faster than he did back in the day( when I was really obsessed with speed)

bwahaha, I can run sections with him too...I'm talking the whole song up to speed, no 'mulligans' ..he doesn't use the common fingerings for the HM scale, he has certain 'patterns' (as we all do) that he falls into when playing any scale. I am not a fan of neoclassical style 'shred' guitar that was really big when Yngwie hit town, but I do use the scales (especially HM add flat 5) for writing new material and have learned a TON from Yngwie as to his creative use of the HM scale (the diminished forms he uses are contained within the scale).

 

[ke2]

And I'm a firm believer that if you play a lick using the same notes, but in different positions that it will in fact sound different, but i bet you and your refined ear would say the same thing. An open G sting doesn't sound the same as the 5th fret of the D string playing the G note. The note sounds the same, but the tone is slightly different.

Yep, Eric Johnson calls it "positive fretting", I believe. I TRY to play the note so that I have the "longest" sting length possible. I think a A @ 2nd fret g-string sounds better in many cases than on 5th fret, d-string. More mass in motion, so to speak Of course, it depends on the rest of the tones in the lick

 

[ke2]

It has been my experiance that 99.9% of all the tabs on the net and most published are inaccurate by a wide margin. I remember when Steve vai used to transcribe for the magazines and he was pretty dead on. It's kind of a lost art form now.

When my friend was at GIT in 1989 he had a class with Paul Gilbert and Paul brought in a magazine with Scarified in it. He told me Gilbert was showing how wrong the tab was because even Gilbert couldn't play the licks up to speed with the way they had it tabbed

And I'm a firm believer that if you play a lick using the same notes, but in different positions that it will in fact sound different, but i bet you and your refined ear would say the same thing. An open G sting doesn't sound the same as the 5th fret of the D string playing the G note. The note sounds the same, but the tone is slightly different.

That's an extremely valid point Danyeo. Uli Jon Roth and Eric Johnson have both expressed that!

hehe, I didn`t read your post before I posted