YT comparison vid: VH4/Herbert/Hagen/Schmidt

[t-rex22]

Hadn't seen this posted here, so I thought I'd share. Really enjoyed this video:

Omg, the Hagen at 0:57-1:01 and 2:01-2:08!!! I gotta get one of these!

Unfortuantely this comparison and style of music is not the best platform to showcase the Schmidt...did they get it mixed up with the Dmoll or what?!? Nonetheless, a fun listen on headphones!

 

[spirit7]

Why showcase it with djent - aka the most dull, soulless form of heavy music? :-/ I'd love to hear that same comparison with some Mastodon riffs!

-C

 

[kahawe]

OK, on regular-ass speakers they all sound pretty much the same in that "demo"... and I don't like the tone he dialed in.

 

[ProgFree]

Why showcase it with djent - aka the most dull, soulless form of heavy music? :-/ I'd love to hear that same comparison with some Mastodon riffs!
-C

+1

 

[bananaladonpcp]

Why showcase it with djent - aka the most dull, soulless form of heavy music? :-/ I'd love to hear that same comparison with some Mastodon riffs!
-C

+1

Yeah who want's to hear new interesting music that goes outside of the minor scale? Enjoy being stuck in the past gentlemen

-Alex

 

[AsRocker]

I've seen that video a while ago, and tbh i didn't like the tone they got from amps at all.

 

[Heritage Softail]

I don't think a one trick pony vid of the Diezel line is really fair. I have heard a VH4 and Herbert play a HUGE spectrum.

Andy Wood has a smoking ass rig rundown demo with a Herbert.... Metal, rock, blues fusion, chicken pickin.

This is a better sample of what a Herbert can o if you have a variety of skills.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfAHCWciNTs&desktop_uri=/watch?v=ZfAHCWciNTs

 

[opiateofthemasses]

Why showcase it with djent - aka the most dull, soulless form of heavy music? :-/ I'd love to hear that same comparison with some Mastodon riffs!
-C

+1

Yeah who want's to hear new interesting music that goes outside of the minor scale? Enjoy being stuck in the past gentlemen

-Alex

I liked the song, but I have to agree that there are definitely better tone/style options for showing off the capabilities of amps, other than extreme drop-tuned, 7-string, metal chug, however nifty it may sound or not.

 

[kahawe]

Enjoy being stuck in the past gentlemen

hehe kinda what I expected from tubetone.ru... you like to hate on and insult "tovarishes" when you think they aren't reading your forums, but the slightest constructive criticism of your own demo and we are instantly all old geezer who basically told you to turn it down...

 

[hunter]

that vid is pointless

 

[Ventura]

Andy Wood has a smoking ass.

Joe... Let's stick to amps here, m'kay


Bananaladonpcp...
Just one take with the mighty "V" and it would be game over, as you know. The video gave the others a slight chance - it's only fair.

Uncle Mo

 

[JimmyBlind]

Why showcase it with djent - aka the most dull, soulless form of heavy music? :-/ I'd love to hear that same comparison with some Mastodon riffs!
-C

+1

Yeah who want's to hear new interesting music that goes outside of the minor scale? Enjoy being stuck in the past gentlemen

-Alex

Music. of course, is subjective.

If we're talking about music being good based on its rhythmical & technical merit alone, I can name a multitude of bands from 'yesteryear' who make the likes of Periphery & DEP look like rank amateurs creatively & technically. Mr Bungle. Alan Holdsworth & Jamiroquai to name but a few.

Also, consider the amazing works of virtually every classical composer I can think of. Listen to what Franz Liszt was doing over 100 years ago.

Not having a dig, so don't take it personally, but music changes just as fashion changes. Just because something is new, doesn't make it 'better' or any better designed & constructed. This entire 'djent' genre, if you can even call it a genre, will be soon forgotten just as nu-metal has been forgotten as some sort of tasteless, brief sub-genre.

I really don't understand the reference to music evolving beyond the use of the 'minor scale'. Every single song by every single band I can think of, periphery included, write music that can be described conventionally within key.

 

[ProgFree]

Why showcase it with djent - aka the most dull, soulless form of heavy music? :-/ I'd love to hear that same comparison with some Mastodon riffs!
-C

+1

Yeah who want's to hear new interesting music that goes outside of the minor scale? Enjoy being stuck in the past gentlemen

-Alex

Music. of course, is subjective.

If we're talking about music being good based on its rhythmical & technical merit alone, I can name a multitude of bands from 'yesteryear' who make the likes of Periphery & DEP look like rank amateurs creatively & technically. Mr Bungle. Alan Holdsworth & Jamiroquai to name but a few.

Also, consider the amazing works of virtually every classical composer I can think of. Listen to what Franz Liszt was doing over 100 years ago.

Not having a dig, so don't take it personally, but music changes just as fashion changes. Just because something is new, doesn't make it 'better' or any better designed & constructed. This entire 'djent' genre, if you can even call it a genre, will be soon forgotten just as nu-metal has been forgotten as some sort of tasteless, brief sub-genre.

I really don't understand the reference to music evolving beyond the use of the 'minor scale'. Every single song by every single band I can think of, periphery included, write music that can be described conventionally within key.

+1 +1

Djent or whatever you wanna call it: there is one band and that is Meshuggah. The rest sounds to me equivalent to Metallica cover bands. They trying to sound like Metallica but they are not Metallica, don't know if you get the point...
About the other "djent", it is fun to watch their videos because the guys usually can some chops. But nothing more than that. It is dull, souless and the least creative form of metal that has appeared since the hair days (and still not sure about this...)

About the minor scale, well I don't think that "djent" brings something new to the picture. Already in the 60's you had bands that were doing much more for music (in terms of keys and modes) than "djent" will ever do.

 

[OmegaZero]

I would have to agree that this was not the best choice of material for an amp comparison. Also, I found it frustrating that they didn't use all of the amps with each riff/section.