Shiva 20th Bliss!!!

[battenguitars]

I have had my Shiva 20th for a few months now and have never been happier with an amp. I have the OS212 V30 loaded cab. I haven't take the plunge to put in 6550's yet but will do that soon as I understand it is an amazing difference. I love the KT88's but like to experiment with tubes. Any recommendations on which 6550 to try? Also, I am considering buying a Bogner 412...any advice on speakers or cab versions? I wouldn't mind taking the shiva into a little heavier territory. No complaints at all about the low end or level of gain, I am just wondering if a 412 with the right speaker/speaker combination and the addition of the 6550's will make an already wonderful amp even more destructive?

 

[RockStarNick]

I'd probably start by trying K100's in place of the V30's. Definitely a harder sounding, more modern speaker, with a bigger bottom end. (Although the K100's and KT88s might be total overkill and lack warmth.)

 

[richedie]

I agree with Nick. I thought I liked K100s but I have to remember that I found them almost too modern or too stiff or something. V30s seem more vintage and smoother to me. Right now I am using WGS ET65/Vet 30s and love it.

 

[sombersoul]

I have had my Shiva 20th for a few months now and have never been happier with an amp.

Had mine for over two weeks now and it's such a great sounding amp, I'm really happy! And I really and honestly feel no g.a.s. at the moment. Should have gotten the Shiva a long time ago.

I'm wondering about the same questions as you. I actually like the sound of the KT88 tubes but am naturally curious what 6550 will do to the sound. I'm playing through a Diezel 212 RL, but I've been thinking about the Bogner OS 212. I read it makes the cleans sound warm and woody. How about the tightness in the lowend? I'm thinking that the Diezel, a well-built cab in its own right, is tighter and thus a good match for the Shiva's lowend. So unless I can compare both cabs side by side, I'm a bit hesitant to give up the Diezel. It sounds great with the Shiva!

Anyway, I've been considering simply getting a Bogner 412 to have the best of both worlds. This is even though I said I'd never buy a 412 again (small spaces, transport, not really needed live etc.). But I guess I need to find out if the Bogner cabs are different/better than what I currently have. I understand that they project well ("3D") and make your sound big and juicy. This is from countless posts I've read.

If you get new tubes or a Bogner cab, it would be great to hear how you like it with your Shiva.

 

[richedie]

EL34s!

 

[glip22]

I have had my Shiva 20th for a few months now and have never been happier with an amp.

Had mine for over two weeks now and it's such a great sounding amp, I'm really happy! And I really and honestly feel no g.a.s. at the moment. Should have gotten the Shiva a long time ago.

I'm wondering about the same questions as you. I actually like the sound of the KT88 tubes but am naturally curious what 6550 will do to the sound. I'm playing through a Diezel 212 RL, but I've been thinking about the Bogner OS 212. I read it makes the cleans sound warm and woody. How about the tightness in the lowend? I'm thinking that the Diezel, a well-built cab in its own right, is tighter and thus a good match for the Shiva's lowend. So unless I can compare both cabs side by side, I'm a bit hesitant to give up the Diezel. It sounds great with the Shiva!

Anyway, I've been considering simply getting a Bogner 412 to have the best of both worlds. This is even though I said I'd never buy a 412 again (small spaces, transport, not really needed live etc.). But I guess I need to find out if the Bogner cabs are different/better than what I currently have. I understand that they project well ("3D") and make your sound big and juicy. This is from countless posts I've read.

If you get new tubes or a Bogner cab, it would be great to hear how you like it with your Shiva.

Mo calls me the Shiva pimp. Now you know why 6550's sound great in the amp.

 

[sombersoul]

Mo calls me the Shiva pimp. Now you know why 6550's sound great in the amp.

What exactly do they change about the sound compared to the KT88s?

I just wanted to add that I think the 20th Shiva's distortion sounds terrific recorded with a room mic (a Zoom H2, in my case).

 

[glip22]

Mo calls me the Shiva pimp. Now you know why 6550's sound great in the amp.

What exactly do they change about the sound compared to the KT88s?

I just wanted to add that I think the 20th Shiva's distortion sounds terrific recorded with a room mic (a Zoom H2, in my case).

Gives the tone a little more of an el34 vibe. Takes away the small amount of glassiness you have with the 88's. Makes the tone creamier and a little richer. Better harmonics as well.

 

[sombersoul]

I will try them eventually!