Will the market come back around after the election?

NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
Silver Bullet Band? I thought they were with Bob Seger?

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rsm said:
Europe, at least Western Europe is in decline, and will be overwhelmed by the Muslim invasion in the coming decades. The creation of the grand caliphate of europistan is well underway unless indigenous Europeans do something about it, but they haven't yet; and each year they become fewer and weaker as the invaders outbreed them.

Plenty of stories of Europeans fleeing Europe, haven't found any country, UN or EU collecting or at least publishing the numbers, but it's happening and will likely accelerate.

As I've said many times: when you're on a sinking ship in the middle of the ocean you have three options: try to save it, sink with it, abandon it. As many first world people are starting to realize the futility of saving it, a minority who have the means to do so are abandoning it; the rest will be trapped and sink with it.

In his essay, "Fate of Empires", Glubb defined common phases of an empire's rise to its' fall; during the decline there are often reactionary movements that attempt to go back to better times; these are short lived and futile as once a society/country/empire gets to a certain point of no return, there is no chance to save it...the collapse is inevitable. This is true of all long gone cultures, societies, empires of the past; to think Western Europe, EU, the USA, etc. are immune to this is the ultimate hubris or denial.

enjoy the decline
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Europe is tits.


It's definitely not in decline. Do you know how much landmass you are generalizing by saying even western europe is in decline. Place is a fuckin paradise compared to the last 4 years of shitstain democratic imprisonment of the free spirit in America.


Trump 2024

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rsm said:
That took several years to "bounce back" from 2008 if you did not need to use your investments (e.g., retirees); the bounce back from the 1929 crash took even longer - 25 years; most people that retired would be dead before any bounce back.

it's called sequence of returns risk.
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Cash
 
Wizard of Ozz said:
... it is all related. If people don't have enough money for shelter, food, and taxes... do you think they will have money for guitars and amps?

You can't live in an amp... you can't drive your guitar to work... ;)
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My gear is at home or in storage nearby. I work from home for the last 20+ years; and probably travel for in-person meetings at most 3% of the time. :D
 
JohnnyGtar said:
I've got 2 guitars on Craigslist priced to sell and not a single bite even though I posted them a week ago.

I think a lot of people are holding onto their money out of concern for what could happen after the election. I can't blame 'em. Food and shelter come first.

Things are probably gonna get bad in America for awhile, so y'all please stay safe.
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don't forget ammo.

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Nope. I'm basing this this on truck driver pay. I've never been paid what I'm making now. Never thought I'd ever make this kinda rate per mile. If I'm making more, your paying more for what I'm bringing to you. That will never change as trucking is a factor in almost everything economicly, IMO. Plus add in the recent raises in almost all of the unions.
 
GDP during Republican leadership has been about half that of GDP during Democrat leadership for the past 20+ years. Republican leadership is historically terrible for production. Under Republican leadership, the country is projected to perform worse.

On top of that, what we're seeing right now isn't technically inflation, it's corporate greed. This entire year, inflation has been hovering just about as low as it was pre-covid. Prices keep going up arbitrarily, and companies keep reporting record profits. That doesn't happen when actual inflation occurs. It's not "inflation" causing your groceries to keep getting more expensive.

Another Republican presidency will guarantee even more business regulation is stripped away leaving absolutely no incentive for companies to stop price gouging.

Prices are going to keep rising.
 
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TheGreatGreen said:
GDP during Republican leadership has been about half that of GDP during Democrat leadership for the past 20+ years. Republican leadership is historically terrible for production. So if a Republican president is elected, the country is going to perform worse. That's historical fact.

On top of that, what we're seeing right now isn't technically inflation, it's corporate greed. This entire year, inflation has been hovering just about as low as it was pre-covid. Prices keep going up arbitrarily, and companies keep reporting record profits. That doesn't happen when actual inflation occurs. It's not "inflation" causing your groceries to keep getting more expensive.

Another Republican presidency will guarantee even more business regulation is stripped away leaving absolutely no incentive for companies to stop price gouging.

Prices are going to keep rising.
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The gdp has been rigged the last 4 years by using govt spending to raise it... the govt numbers from jobs to inflation has been manipulated and then "revised" for the sake of the election... which you just lost.
 
lespaul6 said:
The gdp has been rigged the last 4 years by using govt spending to raise it... the govt numbers from jobs to inflation has been manipulated and then "revised" for the sake of the election... which you just lost.
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Good thing I cited the last 20 years then.

It's even true at the state level. 8 of the nation's 10 most federal-fund-sucking states are red. Pretty typical for the GOP to cry about how awful the government and federal funding is while knowing their states are being subsidized by blue states though, which make the real money.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
Good thing I cited the last 20 years then.

It's even true at the state level. 8 of the nation's 10 most federal-fund-sucking states are red. Pretty typical for anybody in the GOP to cry about how awful the government and federal funding is while knowing their states are being subsidized by blue states, which make all the real money.
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This isn't a team sport and there hasn't been real money in many decades.
Nobody wins when DC keeps pitting us against each other.
 
TheGreatGreen said:
GDP during Republican leadership has been about half that of GDP during Democrat leadership for the past 20+ years. Republican leadership is historically terrible for production. Under Republican leadership, the country is projected to perform worse.

On top of that, what we're seeing right now isn't technically inflation, it's corporate greed. This entire year, inflation has been hovering just about as low as it was pre-covid. Prices keep going up arbitrarily, and companies keep reporting record profits. That doesn't happen when actual inflation occurs. It's not "inflation" causing your groceries to keep getting more expensive.

Another Republican presidency will guarantee even more business regulation is stripped away leaving absolutely no incentive for companies to stop price gouging.

Prices are going to keep rising.
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One example of this corporate greed you speak of?
 
TheGreatGreen said:
GDP during Republican leadership has been about half that of GDP during Democrat leadership for the past 20+ years. Republican leadership is historically terrible for production. Under Republican leadership, the country is projected to perform worse.

On top of that, what we're seeing right now isn't technically inflation, it's corporate greed. This entire year, inflation has been hovering just about as low as it was pre-covid. Prices keep going up arbitrarily, and companies keep reporting record profits. That doesn't happen when actual inflation occurs. It's not "inflation" causing your groceries to keep getting more expensive.

Another Republican presidency will guarantee even more business regulation is stripped away leaving absolutely no incentive for companies to stop price gouging.

Prices are going to keep rising.
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Shit. The democrats have been stopping price gouging???! Wow. Lets all race to the polls to keep these prices...
 
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