Badlands tone

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GFTPM June 1989 Jake E Lee interview (Interview around pg 90)

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There is another cool Jake interview in the Dec 89 edition with Mark Kendall too. It has a sweet John Sykes article also.
 
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I love the rehearsal video. Still can't believe that the small child was not blown off the stage walking in front of Jake's cabs.

Saw Red Dragon Cartel on the first tour in a pretty big room. Jake was using the 5150III 's then. Probably the loudest show I have ever been to.
 
saw JEL with ozzy and got to hang with him at a club after the concert.
convinced him to play bark and shot with my friend’s band that night. he was hesitant because my friend had a charvel with Floyd and Jake didn’t like them because he hated how they’d blow out of tune when you break a string.
i assured him it would be fine and of course, he broke a string and looked right at me with the i told you so look. still a super cool dude.

never made it to a Badlands gig. my friend wanted me to go with him but i had to work. then Ray got sick and the party was over.

tragic!
 
hammered said:
I got right up from for this gig and I can confirm he likes to play loud

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Can confirm as well. Saw Badlands on their first tour, Enuff ZNuff was opening. Jake was stupid loud. Not good loud but stupid loud. So loud I left the front and finished their set from the back. Couple times Singer and Jake were mouthing at each other, something was up so wasn't a surprise Singer was fired.

As a side note, Derek Frigo stole that show with Enuff ZNuff, they sounded fantastic.
 
fek said:
I love the rehearsal video. Still can't believe that the small child was not blown off the stage walking in front of Jake's cabs.

Saw Red Dragon Cartel on the first tour in a pretty big room. Jake was using the 5150III 's then. Probably the loudest show I have ever been to.
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I saw them in CLE on the same tour. It was killer, and loud AF. Note the lack of mics on the cabs.

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hammered said:
lol , there was talk about it here years ago and on the now defunct Jake E Lee fan page

https://www.rig-talk.com/forum/threads/jake-e-lees-bark-ozzy-rig.182754/
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Maybe it sounds way better into a JTM45 but it wasn't that great into any of my Marshall's.....It was alright... It wasn't like POOOOF...... that's the tone I hear on the first Badlands album and I was using my Jake guitar with an AH1 Holdsworth pickup wound by MJ in it and the SDS-1's in to my 72 SL, my 79 2203 and my 68 plexi and my trusty custom SD-1 was best by far, but as with anything YMMV. :2thumbsup:

Albeit my VMP pedal was kinda beat but it worked ok from what I could tell but there were no tones that convinced me to keep it. The Thrash and doom players like the pedal so I sold it fairly easily due to it's rarity.

I even loaded one of my Marshall 4x12's with EV speakers to see if I liked them, but the ludicrous volumes I had to drive them at to get them to sound good I just gave up and went back to 12H-30's because I just don't play at those volumes anymore.
 
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Panhead5 said:
I'm with you dude --It's amazing how everyone is always looking for some magic sauce or something!
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totally.. Jake has shown and said this many times too... OD-1 into Plexi. Pick your Marshall, grab an SD-1 on the cheap. Giv'er. You need volume, you need the speakers, a JB and chops.
 
jabps said:
Can confirm as well. Saw Badlands on their first tour, Enuff ZNuff was opening. Jake was stupid loud. Not good loud but stupid loud. So loud I left the front and finished their set from the back. Couple times Singer and Jake were mouthing at each other, something was up so wasn't a surprise Singer was fired.

As a side note, Derek Frigo stole that show with Enuff ZNuff, they sounded fantastic.
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As far as Eric Singer being fired the liner notes of the rock candy remasters for the debut album and Voodoo Highway shed a lot of light on all the drama that was going in on in that band from the very beginning
 
hammered said:
As far as Eric Singer being fired the liner notes of the rock candy remasters for the debut album and Voodoo Highway shed a lot of light on all the drama that was going in on in that band from the very beginning
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Yeah it didn't go into detail, maybe someone can chime in that might know the drama with Gillen, Jake and Singer. Regardless those two weren't happy with each other onstage the night I saw them. Maybe because Jake was playing so damn loud lol. Btw/ the night I saw them he had a backline of Orange Marshall cabs. Next time I saw him with WWIII he was all 5150 heads and cabs.
 
fek said:
That is the show that I was at! Greg Chaisson's drop tuner broke towards the end of the show and he had to borrow the openers bass. The set list was heavy on Badlands tunes which was fine with me.
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Yes!! I remember that! The guy had to run out to his car to get his bass as he had already loaded out.

Man, it's a small world sometimes.
 
NorCal_Val said:
Saw Badlands on the “Voodoo Highway” tour, in Sacramento, at the venerable Boardwalk. Jake played through 2 red, full Marshall stacks. His onstage volume was insanely loud. And it sounded fantastic.
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On the first Badlands tour he had a Marshall backline of Orange cabs. I wonder if he was just having stuff recovered.
 
jabps said:
Yeah it didn't go into detail, maybe someone can chime in that might know the drama with Gillen, Jake and Singer. Regardless those two weren't happy with each other onstage the night I saw them. Maybe because Jake was playing so damn loud lol. Btw/ the night I saw them he had a backline of Orange Marshall cabs. Next time I saw him with WWIII he was all 5150 heads and cabs.
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He had orange Marshall cabs when I saw them and his leg was in a big brace/cast. Saw WWIII also. Six 5150 full stacks all cranked at the Alrosa….I had to leave he was so loud.
 
Kapo_Polenton said:
totally.. Jake has shown and said this many times too... OD-1 into Plexi. Pick your Marshall, grab an SD-1 on the cheap. Giv'er. You need volume, you need the speakers, a JB and chops.
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YUP! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^:2thumbsup:

It's the DanTravis woodshed theory at play yet again........................:yes::LOL:
 
jabps said:
Yeah it didn't go into detail, maybe someone can chime in that might know the drama with Gillen, Jake and Singer. Regardless those two weren't happy with each other onstage the night I saw them. Maybe because Jake was playing so damn loud lol. Btw/ the night I saw them he had a backline of Orange Marshall cabs. Next time I saw him with WWIII he was all 5150 heads and cabs.
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Skimming thru the booklets in the debut and Voodoo Highway now , there was all sorts of issues in this band right off the bat . Ray was insistent on the the manager of his choice or he was gonna leave the band , Eric and Ray were against Greg Chassion in the band from the beginning, Eric wanted the band to play the records company’s game with a more commercial sound . Ray started to complain to the record company that Voodoo Highway wasn’t sounding commercial enough, knowing this would most likely be his last album he wanted it to be memorable. They eventually fired Ray but brought him back due to his replacement wanting more money. Ray continued to talk trash about Jake in Kerrang magazine and from the stage in London.
 
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