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SKU said:
I only explained to you that the same way digital devices impacted amp sales, “profilers” can impact “modeller” sales even though they are different types of devices. You just lack logic and comprehension of simple sentences.
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When it comes to comprehending fucking idiots, you’re absolutely right. (y)
 
ZEN Amps said:
I like tube amps.

(Let's see if that fixes this thread)
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I will never understand why people feel this stuff is an “either/or” scenario. I like Les Pauls but I also have other guitars I like. I like Chinese food and Mexican food too. Limiting yourself sucks imo. More is always better and not every rig is perfect for every situation—many of us find ourselves playing guitar in various scenarios believe it or not. I have $20k in tube amps here and I still love the Fractal stuff.
 
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tallcoolone said:
I will never understand why people feel this stuff is an “either/or” scenario. I like Les Pauls but I also have other guitars I like. I like Chinese food and Mexican food too. Limiting yourself sucks imo. More is always better and not every rig is perfect for every situation—many of us find ourselves playing guitar in various scenarios believe it or not. I have $20k in tube amps here and I still love the Fractal stuff.
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I am in that situation. In my cover band I play my Axe-III, because we play everything from the Pretenders to Heart. In my 90's band I use a Friedman BE.
 
DanTravis62 said:
He always comes back.
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Part way through deciphering the brainchild’s posts in this thread I asked myself, “Is this fucking Donnie?” and then remembered everyone thought it was him when he made his first post on here a few months back. I’m guessing it is Donnie because he’s got all the traits; uses Fractal gear but has a constant issue with the owner and takes jabs whenever he can, communicates like he had a massive brain injury at some point, only talks shit and insults people then does the “you sound angry” when any response is given…I’m 99% sure it’s Donnie. If not, the jizz sock Donnie keeps around learned how to use the internet.
 
RevDrucifer said:
Part way through deciphering the brainchild’s posts in this thread I asked myself, “Is this fucking Donnie?” and then remembered everyone thought it was him when he made his first post on here a few months back. I’m guessing it is Donnie because he’s got all the traits; uses Fractal gear but has a constant issue with the owner and takes jabs whenever he can, communicates like he had a massive brain injury at some point, only talks shit and insults people then does the “you sound angry” when any response is given…I’m 99% sure it’s Donnie. If not, the jizz sock Donnie keeps around learned how to use the internet.
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Not gonna lie, other than the sometimes abhorrent language and disgusting levels of depravity in his comments that he so willing delved to, I kinda liked Donny B. He knew his pizza, and his drink and had some good music stories. I could sense he was a pretty decent guy to hang out with, on one velvet morning.
 
japetus said:
Not gonna lie, other than the sometimes abhorrent language and disgusting levels of depravity in his comments that he so willing delved to, I kinda liked Donny B. He knew his pizza, and his drink and had some good music stories. I could sense he was a pretty decent guy to hang out with, on one velvet morning.
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Hard to tell because the dude will alter his personality and posts in an attempt to throw people off that he's using an alt, so who knows if it was his legit personality or he was just pulling shit out of his ass to throw people off. Much like his first post back here, talking shit about NDSP; Donnie LOVES NDSP and the QC so the obvious thing to do as an alt would go the opposite direction. Everything else since then is straight up Donnie behavior and posts. I think the dude's in his 50's or 60's but acts like he just figured out how to be an edgelord on the internet and found his calling in life.
 
Slap fighting on the internet with random strangers over digital noisemakers is kinda lame imo
 
SKU said:
Nah bro, you’re just a tense, simple-minded fanboy whose life revolves around simple things. Like getting mad when someone makes a thread on the Internet that you don’t agree with.
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tallcoolone said:
I will never understand why people feel this stuff is an “either/or” scenario. I like Les Pauls but I also have other guitars I like. I like Chinese food and Mexican food too. Limiting yourself sucks imo. More is always better and not every rig is perfect for every situation—many of us find ourselves playing guitar in various scenarios believe it or not. I have $20k in tube amps here and I still love the Fractal stuff.
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It was a joke...the thread was heading in a certain direction and it was a poor attempt at humour, very poor it seems!

Having said that, I love exploring new tech and so have tried nearly every digital solution on the market. In general it just doesn't do it for me - Kemper, Axe FX, Neural etc. And this is after extensive use with a very open mind. Had good luck with I.R technology though, once I figured out how to accurately capture our own cabs and that the load is absolutely critical.

So it's worth noting that when people pledge allegiance to a certain type of gear is doesn't necessarily mean they are limiting themselves, are close-minded, or are stubborn. Maybe they have spent the time and have a real, justifiable preference for something - in my case tube amps. In other cases I'm sure there's plenty of guys who are completely set in their ways and only like old-school stuff without really exploring digital.

I think advocating that everyone needs to move forward with the times is too general a mindset, and I know for sure many would disagree with the 'more is always better' sentiment. For example I've heard a number of conversations go something like this:

young guy: "You really have to try the new XYZ modeler from ABC, it's amazing"
old guy: "Why do I have to? My deluxe reverb and plexi give me everything I need"
young guy: gives 30 reasons the modeler suits his own requirements, situations and budget.

This is the way of online 'discussions' too it seems - many folks only focus on their own needs and experiences, leading to polarising arguments and absolute statements.

Sorry if this sounds like I'm bashing your post - not my intention. I guess if you can't understand why some guys are in fact 'either/or' then this may shed some light? Don't know, maybe it's all useless hot air.

Damn, maybe it wasn't such an anodyne joke after all!
 
ZEN Amps said:
It was a joke...the thread was heading in a certain direction and it was a poor attempt at humour, very poor it seems!

Having said that, I love exploring new tech and so have tried nearly every digital solution on the market. In general it just doesn't do it for me - Kemper, Axe FX, Neural etc. And this is after extensive use with a very open mind. Had good luck with I.R technology though, once I figured out how to accurately capture our own cabs and that the load is absolutely critical.

So it's worth noting that when people pledge allegiance to a certain type of gear is doesn't necessarily mean they are limiting themselves, are close-minded, or are stubborn. Maybe they have spent the time and have a real, justifiable preference for something - in my case tube amps. In other cases I'm sure there's plenty of guys who are completely set in their ways and only like old-school stuff without really exploring digital.

I think advocating that everyone needs to move forward with the times is too general a mindset, and I know for sure many would disagree with the 'more is always better' sentiment. For example I've heard a number of conversations go something like this:

young guy: "You really have to try the new XYZ modeler from ABC, it's amazing"
old guy: "Why do I have to? My deluxe reverb and plexi give me everything I need"
young guy: gives 30 reasons the modeler suits his own requirements, situations and budget.

This is the way of online 'discussions' too it seems - many folks only focus on their own needs and experiences, leading to polarising arguments and absolute statements.

Sorry if this sounds like I'm bashing your post - not my intention. I guess if you can't understand why some guys are in fact 'either/or' then this may shed some light? Don't know, maybe it's all useless hot air.

Damn, maybe it wasn't such an anodyne joke after all!
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FWIW, this thread had nothing to do with either/or. I have a Deluxe Reverb sitting in my living room, next to my FM9 and a shitload of pedals. I very much agree. And I was going to get an HXFX to use with the ToneX pedal. I love gear.
 
ZEN Amps said:
It was a joke...the thread was heading in a certain direction and it was a poor attempt at humour, very poor it seems!

Having said that, I love exploring new tech and so have tried nearly every digital solution on the market. In general it just doesn't do it for me - Kemper, Axe FX, Neural etc. And this is after extensive use with a very open mind. Had good luck with I.R technology though, once I figured out how to accurately capture our own cabs and that the load is absolutely critical.

So it's worth noting that when people pledge allegiance to a certain type of gear is doesn't necessarily mean they are limiting themselves, are close-minded, or are stubborn. Maybe they have spent the time and have a real, justifiable preference for something - in my case tube amps. In other cases I'm sure there's plenty of guys who are completely set in their ways and only like old-school stuff without really exploring digital.

I think advocating that everyone needs to move forward with the times is too general a mindset, and I know for sure many would disagree with the 'more is always better' sentiment. For example I've heard a number of conversations go something like this:

young guy: "You really have to try the new XYZ modeler from ABC, it's amazing"
old guy: "Why do I have to? My deluxe reverb and plexi give me everything I need"
young guy: gives 30 reasons the modeler suits his own requirements, situations and budget.

This is the way of online 'discussions' too it seems - many folks only focus on their own needs and experiences, leading to polarising arguments and absolute statements.

Sorry if this sounds like I'm bashing your post - not my intention. I guess if you can't understand why some guys are in fact 'either/or' then this may shed some light? Don't know, maybe it's all useless hot air.

Damn, maybe it wasn't such an anodyne joke after all!
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Nah no worries man, I get it and apologies for generalizing on ya. I love gear boards—I find em inspiring b/c I love geeking out on tone. But damn if modeling/profiling discussions bring out the obtuse in people. I love my 50w NMV amps but sometimes you need to adapt to the room/gig and a gagged down Marshall can’t come close to competing with a well dialed in Fractal in a low stage volume situation.

Now I personally don’t have a modeler now but when I did I got nothing but praise on my tone. From what I can tell most negative first impressions are due to monitoring issues. An AXE through a decent pair of studio monitors at loud stereo volume is guitar player crack.
 
RevDrucifer said:
FWIW, this thread had nothing to do with either/or. I have a Deluxe Reverb sitting in my living room, next to my FM9 and a shitload of pedals. I very much agree. And I was going to get an HXFX to use with the ToneX pedal. I love gear.
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Fair enough, was just responding to tallcoolone’s comment really.

Yep gear is great fun - keeping men off the streets (and golf courses) since 1955.

tallcoolone said:
Nah no worries man, I get it and apologies for generalizing on ya. I love gear boards—I find em inspiring b/c I love geeking out on tone. But damn if modeling/profiling discussions bring out the obtuse in people. I love my 50w NMV amps but sometimes you need to adapt to the room/gig and a gagged down Marshall can’t come close to competing with a well dialed in Fractal in a low stage volume situation.

Now I personally don’t have a modeler now but when I did I got nothing but praise on my tone. From what I can tell most negative first impressions are due to monitoring issues. An AXE through a decent pair of studio monitors at loud stereo volume is guitar player crack.
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Ha all good man. This is why I dig this place - I was able to reply to your post, you actually read mine, then replied in a calm and polite way. Not so common elsewhere!

Hey have you tried a power station or good attenuator with your 50 watter? Not saying it's a better solution than the Fractal for quiet stages but man, the joy of playing through a NMV Marshall at lower volumes is pretty special.
 
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ZEN Amps said:
Hey have you tried a power station or good attenuator with your 50 watter? Not saying it's a better solution than the Fractal for quiet stages but man, the joy of playing through a NMV Marshall at lower volumes is pretty special.
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I’ve been using the TAE as of late which is why I dumped the modelers. I think I sold my AXEIIXL the day before he released III, got lucky lol. I’ll def have another but the TAE does the reamp/attenuation thing plus adds delay, reverb, compression, eq and boost, changes your amp channels, adds a loop, loads IRs for FOH AND makes everything switchable via MIDI. I like the idea of a tube reamper like the PS but, a) I deal with enough tubes, b) sounds heavy and hot, and c) it doesn’t do close to what the TAE does.
 
RevDrucifer said:
Part way through deciphering the brainchild’s posts in this thread I asked myself, “Is this fucking Donnie?” and then remembered everyone thought it was him when he made his first post on here a few months back. I’m guessing it is Donnie because he’s got all the traits; uses Fractal gear but has a constant issue with the owner and takes jabs whenever he can, communicates like he had a massive brain injury at some point, only talks shit and insults people then does the “you sound angry” when any response is given…I’m 99% sure it’s Donnie. If not, the jizz sock Donnie keeps around learned how to use the internet.
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😂🎯
 
RaceU4her said:
I had something like this happen at my shop, one customer comes in and starts telling another customer how great one of my competitors does something right in front of me, other customer leaves and I told the dude I don’t care what you say once you leave that door but you come into my shop again and pull that shit.. all of a sudden he was just so sorry
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I am now curious, what do you offer at your shop? Guitar related?
 
RevDrucifer said:
Part way through deciphering the brainchild’s posts in this thread I asked myself, “Is this fucking Donnie?” and then remembered everyone thought it was him when he made his first post on here a few months back. I’m guessing it is Donnie because he’s got all the traits; uses Fractal gear but has a constant issue with the owner and takes jabs whenever he can, communicates like he had a massive brain injury at some point, only talks shit and insults people then does the “you sound angry” when any response is given…I’m 99% sure it’s Donnie. If not, the jizz sock Donnie keeps around learned how to use the internet.
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