25% tariffs on Mexican & Canadian stuff starts tomorrow.

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Look, I can't help but be a bit excited by the developments of late. Trump is making good moves IMO on many fronts, including going after Canada and Greenland (From the perspective of US interests). All this will benefit me personally to the extent he succeeds, but I have ethical reservations.
 
acceptance said:
Look, I can't help but be a bit excited by the developments of late. Trump is making good moves IMO on many fronts, including going after Canada and Greenland (From the perspective of US interests). All this will benefit me personally to the extent he succeeds, but I have ethical reservations.
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My concern is he's following a pattern the elites have wanted for a one world system, namely that Canada-USA-Meixco would be governed as a single region. Perhaps it's not his intention but dumb rich dudes seem to have a way of playing into the hands of the elite. Kinda like....his "amazing" vaccine.

Still, the gravy train has to come to an end. Free trade should've never have happened. I really want to see him slap the shit outta those taco munchers. Every weekend here is like a flotilla of overloaded F-150's taking stuff back across the border. I'm sick of mexicans and other foreigners being able to buy up acreage when the same courtesy isn't extended to Americans interested in those countries. I have wanted to visit Baja for years but those losers can't even get a handle on the crime problems. We need to handle it for them cause they can't and it's affecting our life quality.
 
VonBonfire said:
My concern is he's following a pattern the elites have wanted for a one world system, namely that Canada-USA-Meixco would be governed as a single region. Perhaps it's not his intention but dumb rich dudes seem to have a way of playing into the hands of the elite. Kinda like....his "amazing" vaccine.

Still, the gravy train has to come to an end. Free trade should've never have happened. I really want to see him slap the shit outta those taco munchers. Every weekend here is like a flotilla of overloaded F-150's taking stuff back across the border. I'm sick of mexicans and other foreigners being able to buy up acreage when the same courtesy isn't extended to Americans interested in those countries. I have wanted to visit Baja for years but those losers can't even get a handle on the crime problems. We need to handle it for them cause they can't and it's affecting our life quality.
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Why subsidize and protect these countries but not own them. Taking Texas paid of.
 
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VonBonfire said:
My concern is he's following a pattern the elites have wanted for a one world system, namely that Canada-USA-Meixco would be governed as a single region.
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Centralization of power is always the enemy of freedom. Say the US took over the western hemisphere, Russia and China split Eurasia. Much easier place from which to negotiate a one world government.
 
Geo said:
Why subsidize and protect these countries but not own them. Taking Texas paid of.
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Agreed. I want a ranch in Baja and a cottage in Oaxaca. We'll rename it "South Texas"

acceptance said:
Centralization of power is always the enemy of freedom. Say the US took over the western hemisphere, Russia and China split Eurasia. Much easier place from which to negotiate a one world government.
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Well it remains to be seen if he will centralize power or just hammer out an actual square deal that can benefit all the parties involved. This is the end of the age and it's my belief that no one is elected to president that isn't first appointed. I guess we'll see. In a way, free trade centralized power into the hands of the globalists, so maybe ending it will be a blow to their authority.
 
acceptance said:
I think you're missing that Trump is intent on annexing Canada. I don't believe the end game is renegotiating a trade deal or securing borders, but if Trump gets that it's obviously a win. I know you understand the value of one's sovereignty JBT, personal and national. The Canadian people don't want to be part of the US, even if it means doing with less. But what's going to happen is that corporate interests in Canada will get the politicians to yield. The people will have no choice.

It's all fun and games to cheer on empire when you're in it (And when the empire is not fixing it's gaze on you, it's citizen, as has been the case under Biden), but don't forget, empires rise and fall. I prefer to stand on the principle of being anti-empire, so when the Chinese, Russians or whoever sets their sights towards us I won't feel like a hypocrite in resisting.
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Just to respond to the first part…I honestly don’t think so. I think it’s just inflammatory rhetoric to get people’s attention… he’s always done that. No American is going to support annexing Canada by force. This is not the late 1700’s nor early 1800’s. At the end of the day we do have to try to appear to be the good guys. Now if canuckistan votes to join us then yeah I’m cool. I really don’t want that because to many of them are leftarded and we don’t need the scale tipping that way anymore. And they are just so….nice….
 
VonBonfire said:
Well it remains to be seen if he will centralize power or just hammer out an actual square deal that can benefit all the parties involved. This is the end of the age and it's my belief that no one is elected to president that isn't first appointed. I guess we'll see. In a way, free trade centralized power into the hands of the globalists, so maybe ending it will be a blow to their authority.
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In my experience people like Trump are not out for a square deal. They are out to dominate and to grow. I respect this nature. They are the kings of the jungle so to speak. But I personally think that humankind can evolve beyond this and actually work more collaboratively and to the benefit of all.

Billionaire Peter Thiel wrote, "Competition Is for Losers — If you want to create and capture lasting value, look to build a monopoly". That's the mindset. And he is supposedly a libertarian!
 
Best thing that could happen to Mexico is them joining us. And I like Mexicans. The ones I had issues with were the Chicano mofo’s from east LA… and I actually got along with them. Actually threw hands with a couple over the years and then became almost friends with them…. 18th street boys, both of them. I became el blanco Diablo…. Well not really but it sounds cool… did get in a couple fistfights though.. need to add that to my prison thread…
 
acceptance said:
In my experience people like Trump are not out for a square deal. They are out to dominate and to grow. I respect this nature. They are the kings of the jungle so to speak. But I personally think that humankind can evolve beyond this and actually work more collaboratively and to the benefit of all.

Billionaire Peter Thiel wrote, "Competition Is for Losers — If you want to create and capture lasting value, look to build a monopoly". That's the mindset. And he is supposedly a libertarian!
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Historical evidence has shown the USA has rarely negotiated a fair deal. Take that as you will.
 
JackBootedThug said:
Just to respond to the first part…I honestly don’t think so. I think it’s just inflammatory rhetoric to get people’s attention… he’s always done that. No American is going to support annexing Canada by force. This is not the late 1700’s nor early 1800’s. At the end of the day we do have to try to appear to be the good guys. Now if canuckistan votes to join us then yeah I’m cool. I really don’t want that because to many of them are leftarded and we don’t need the scale tipping that way anymore. And they are just so….nice….
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I agree that the US probably won't end up invading Canada. He didn't rule it out for Greenland though. You're right about needing to appear as the good guys. That's always the case! ...I caught a moment of the livestream of his address on the tariffs and he was talking about the US expanding it's territories. I believe he tweeted he would double down on tariffs with Canada until they joined or something to that effect. I think he's dead serious anyways, not just rhetoric.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/garthf...land-and-canada-strategic-and-economic-goals/
 
I would say Greenland will be 51. A European nation playing the imperial colonialism card….lol… that totally goes against the leftist socialist narrative of the European beta’s. Let the fuckin greenies decide. Continue to be exploited and ignored by beta Vikings or join us and immediately reap the benefits from being the greatest nation on earth… sorry thumbbpicker.. I said that just to mess with you….
 
Honestly though… why wouldn’t Canada want to join us? Seriously. The cost of living and price of everything is drastically different on each side of the border. Almost all the canucks live right on the border. Population wise Canada would be number 5 or 6 for states population density. Both parties would suck all kinds of Canuck caak for their electoral votes. Just a thought….
 
acceptance said:
In my experience people like Trump are not out for a square deal. They are out to dominate and to grow. I respect this nature. They are the kings of the jungle so to speak. But I personally think that humankind can evolve beyond this and actually work more collaboratively and to the benefit of all.
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I agree but evolution is not a reality. Devolution is. Everything degrades from it's initial point of creation. Flesh and bone always sets out to dominate and grow, what do you think these punk nations next door have been doing? The same thing. The tit got popped out their mouth and it was abrupt, and sends a message and that message is no more easy milk. Either Trump enriches me, you, and every other American or he has failed. So he can put his money where his big fat mouth is. Let's see.

JackBootedThug said:
Best thing that could happen to Mexico is them joining us. And I like Mexicans. The ones I had issues with were the Chicano mofo’s from east LA… and I actually got along with them. Actually threw hands with a couple over the years and then became almost friends with them…. 18th street boys, both of them. I became el blanco Diablo…. Well not really but it sounds cool… did get in a couple fistfights though.. need to add that to my prison thread…
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I am a big fan of Mexican culture and know many. I know good, hard working illegals.They are here cause no one enforced the law. Now they must come back legally and prosper with us. The border has always been a problem. I want to ride my MC and have a place down in Mexico . Annex them and leave Canada to their trees and and lefty political stuff. Grant asylum to the Canadians that want out. When Canada goes broke from being stupid, you buy the Yukon and Northwest territories and drill baby drill. Make gasoline something that is given away and shared readily due to it's low cost and see what happens.....
 
JackBootedThug said:
I’m not reading through all this but here’s my take. I don’t care. ? fuck Mexico and fuck Canada. Mexico has allowed illegal migration because it does nothing but benefit them. They dump their trash on us and they send tons of money back to ole mehico… not even going to mention the the dope and cartels… and Canada… great people but fuck them to. They enjoy our protection so they spend little on defense and trade with them is completely one sided. Fuck that. The only thing Trump has done is expose these things and troll the fuck out of them…and he’s the bad guy? The mood of this country has shifted finally because people see where we’re headed with all these globalist policies and politicians. And fuck Europe and Asia. Fair trade. Responsible spending for all NATO nations. And keep the USA out of everyone’s business and pledging aid and protection. All that does is get us dead Americans soldiers. All in my humble opinion…but hey what do I'm know?
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Absolutely.
 
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