50W Einstein through a 2x12....?? Anyone??

[Ventura]

I play mine einstein 100 through a port city 2x12OS with ceramic hempcones. It absolutely slays!

Are these ceramic hempcomes the Tone Tubby's? And as to the post above yours regarding tubes - am I reading correctly that there are 2 types of power tubes used in the configuration of the Einstein?? 2xJJ's and 2xEL's = 4 power valves?? Just seeking some clarification.

I've been chatting with Dave at Mills Acoustics about a Mach 212B cab - they seem to have a great reputation in this department. I'm not into the Bogner OS cab...had one, it was awesome, but I'm looking for a better build (more heavy duty), less "ornate", and just straight up - balls to the wall - power and grunt.

Thanks for all the feedback cats...I'm taking all this info seriously.

Peace,
V.

 

[nivek]

Yes Ventura, 2 JJ KT77 in the inners, 2 winged C=EL-34 in the outers. I have the KTs bias at around 90ma the winged Cs around low 70s.

 

[Ventura]

Yes Ventura, 2 JJ KT77 in the inners, 2 winged C=EL-34 in the outers. I have the KTs bias at around 90ma the winged Cs around low 70s.

Thanks - and I am also to assume that they're always engaged when the standby goes to run, correct? As in, they're not phased to play 2x for one channel, 2x for a different channel - they're just all 4 on at all times to get the unique voicing on an Einy(?).

Peace - gotta get my facts straight as hell, this is a PURCHASE people!!!!!

V.

 

[nivek]

Correct all 4 tubes run togather. Diezels web sites tech corner gives the recommended bias for different tube type. I bought my Einstein used and it did not have the stock tubes in it so I experimented and this is the combination I liked best. I love the winged C=EL-34s and the KT-77s makes for a more aggressive sound. A previous poster in this thread RG9 also mentioned he used this same tube configuration and may be able to give some input.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

Are these ceramic hempcomes the Tone Tubby's? And as to the post above yours regarding tubes - am I reading correctly that there are 2 types of power tubes used in the configuration of the Einstein?? 2xJJ's and 2xEL's = 4 power valves?? Just seeking some clarification.

Yup ceramic tone tubby's I bought myself. In my Einstein I use 2 El34BHT and two SED 6550 Winged C. Peter has recommended both so I figured mix em.

 

[Ventura]

Alright - this is sounding more and more like a "done deal". Just going to play off the notion of a Mills or Diezel 2x12, and whether or not I need the 50W or 100W Einy for my applications. More horsepower is always my M.O., but sometimes the ability to overdrive a 50W is more readily doable than a 100W power section.

THANK YOU MUCHLY for all this awesome feedback.

V.

 

[RG955TT]

Nivek, are you really tunning your JJ KT77's at 90 Ma? That sounds really high to me but I'm asking because I've had problems with them red plating and I thought it was because of too high bias...can you please clarify?

 

[nivek]

Yes I am running the KT-77 just under 90ma I think I had them set around 87 or 88ma working great for me , from what I have read KT-77 need bias a little hotter than EL-34S. It seems to add a little extra aggression to the sound. I am no expert but I know what sounds good to me and this combination

 

[Serviani]

Greetings fellow mates!
Just recently i got my first Diezel amp, an Einstein 50W and i'm in search for a 1x12 or 2x12 cab just so i can use it at my place as well.

Has anyone tried a Cornford cab with an Einstein? I would appreciate your feedback on this!

PS.Ventura i hope i'm not hijacking your thread.

 

[Ventura]

Naw Dawg, I don't take valid questions as being a hijack... In fact, I could gush about gear all day long... I find it all super interesting. Keep the peace - maybe check on the Cornford forum for chats about what you're looking for. Thus far, from here anyway, I'm in for a Mills Mach 212B or a Diezel 2x12 OS loaded with TTHC's.

I think I've got it covered. Now it's your turn

Peace,
V.

 

[reussen]

Hey Reussen, so you're playing the Einy through a 2x12 OS cab loaded with V30's and you're diggin it eh?? Have you ever tried other speakers?? As I already have some V30's in the mix in my soundroom, as well as G12T75's and G12K100's, I'm thinking going a different route might be fun - greenbacks, hemps, tonetubby's, G12H30's (limits with that though), etc.

Lemme know,
V.

Hey V!

Sorry to chime in so late. Yeah, I really dig the V30's. A friend of mine has the same cab, just with greenbacks in it. We hooked up both cabs to the Einy and it made a sweet combination. Of course, having 2 212's hooked up sounds MASSIVE anyway... next, we're going to try swapping a V30 and a Greenback. We'll see what happens and I'll let you know... I think it may be extremely cool!

R.

 

[Ventura]

Thanks for everyone's feedback and PM's cats - you are all extremely righteous and cool in yer own special ways... This is a very cool forum - good job Brad *wink* as there's less BS here and more true musicianship than any other forum out there that I know of...

Anyway, it's come down to these 2 options for me, and your opinions are welcome...

50W Einstein with either a Mills Mach 212B or Diezel 2x12 loaded with Celestion Gold Alnico's

or,

100W Einstein with either a Mills Mach 212B or Diezel 2x12 loaded with ToneTubby Ceramic Hemps.

That's where it's at - now it's just a matter of chin scratching and making the decision...

Peace Y'All...
V.