Adam Jones Rig via Youtube

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:D :lol: :LOL: to pickguard screws hahahaha
Opiateofthemasses is super close though, I haven't seen the band in person but i've heard a lot of his YouTube stuff and it's good. In my opinion, unprofessional haha, Adams playing is just as much about the effects he's using as his amps. When the amps do get thrown into the mix I think it has a lot to do with finding that sweet spot on the crunch on w/e amp you're using. All the rest is just "dysfunctional insecure practices." :lol: :LOL:
 
Tvd":2vxzu6f9 said:
:D :lol: :LOL: to pickguard screws hahahaha
Opiateofthemasses is super close though, I haven't seen the band in person but i've heard a lot of his YouTube stuff and it's good. In my opinion, unprofessional haha, Adams playing is just as much about the effects he's using as his amps. When the amps do get thrown into the mix I think it has a lot to do with finding that sweet spot on the crunch on w/e amp you're using. All the rest is just "dysfunctional insecure practices." :lol: :LOL:

I understand what you're saying. I know opiate has JJ's or Ruby EL34'S in the power section of his Herbert. I think this is key with getting Adam's tone. Peace.
 
Tvd":1s8vg85t said:
Rezamatix":1s8vg85t said:
FourT6and2":1s8vg85t said:
lol the Marshall has more to do with his sound than the Diezel... :)
Keep telling yourself that, count the diezels...

The silverface is only a back-up. No hate to diezel but it's only atop those mesa cabs, supposedly, because the band felt it fit better in the mix. Adam may still be with his early DR mesa if it were up to only him... who knows.

That is what Adam said about the Diezel and DR .... I can not find the magazine it was in.

Here is what John Ziegler has said about it .... John is a friend of Adam's.

Post by John Ziegler » Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:23 pm
"fwiw, adam jones' '75 marshall super bass is stock(friedman just services it)....and it was the sole amp used on tool stuff up through aemina.
and it's still his main amp to this day. the boogie and diezel are just to add to the frey.
adam does NO channel switching whatsoever on any amps."

From .....
http://www.hugeracksinc.com/forum/viewt ... &start=165

I would very much like to have a Herbert myself.
 
I can't remember where I read that but it's around somewhere, bs or not.
This whole thing is quite amusing! His superbass is supposedly modded but it's supposedly not haha, the years change every post I read, there's a vid on youtube of his gear but supposedly that's been tampered with... Hahaha, he's done a great job fking with everyones heads and making his gear/tone a complete cluster fk to anyone except him, possibly the band and a couple close friends hahahaha. :lol: :LOL:
 
I guess it would depend on your definition of the word "modified" is ?

A lot of the old Marshall's have been changed over to Super lead specs. That and the other small changes may not mean "modified" to everyone.
It is not modified to high gain or have a gain stage added. That is what most people think of when the term modified is used.

Same with the freezing ..... putting a amp in a cool dry place is a good idea when storing. Freezing some components well cause damage.

Slang and interpretation are probably just is much a factor.
 
Tool are DEFINITELY known to BS on just about EVERYTHING! Adam said his Marshall was modded. He said his JB has a hotrod mod. He won't touch the pickup screw that is screwed in between his bridge and tailpiece. The metal flakes in his guitar adds to his tone. And blah, blah, blah...

I will say it again... Opiateofthemasses on Youtube NAILS IT with a Herbert (EL34's), a Mesa Recto cab, and a Silverburst (new or old) with a plain old JB!

Sure, opiate also has TONS of effects pedals, BUT the core tone is DIALED!
 
jsadctnfn1":2b0fvxog said:
Tool are DEFINITELY known to BS on just about EVERYTHING! Adam said his Marshall was modded. He said his JB has a hotrod mod. He won't touch the pickup screw that is screwed in between his bridge and tailpiece. The metal flakes in his guitar adds to his tone. And blah, blah, blah...

I will say it again... Opiateofthemasses on Youtube NAILS IT with a Herbert (EL34's), a Mesa Recto cab, and a Silverburst (new or old) with a plain old JB!

Sure, opiate also has TONS of effects pedals, BUT the core tone is DIALED!

I do not think his rig "nails" it. I have watched all of his videos. The tone is different and the dynamics are very different. Too be honest I never felt it was anything but close and similar in some ways. It's not like a Herbert sounds like a VH4, there are differences in the sounds of these two amps.

Besides it is not like Adam has only used one sound over the years. All the albums have a different sound. I have seen every tour since the beginning, some several times. His sound has changed a lot over the years live and on the albums. I do not think using one amp no matter what that amp is gets very close to the sound Adam has now. YMMV

Anyone who has spent time with all these amps knows most of his sound comes from the Marshall.

There is no doubt Adam has gave a lot of misleading information over the years.
 
Adam Jones and the rest of tool are clearly an anomaly that can't be explained. It's just a waste of good bandwidth talking about this s*&t :lol: :LOL:
 
Rezamatix":36dtyt6u said:
How about this FUCK Marshall. Never liked them, never will. Diezel makes the ultimate amplifier. That is all.

Well to each his own, but you missed a comma:)
You don't need to be the ultimate diezel fan, just get signed with what you got;)
 
:) Did anyone PM Peter Stapfer ? I would be very interested in anything he had committed on. Thanks....
 
I did, as long as Peter D's OK I'll post it. Nothing earth-shattering, just talking about all the different factors he heard that contribute to the overall tone.
 
overthemountain":17yhtbru said:
I did, as long as Peter D's OK I'll post it. Nothing earth-shattering, just talking about all the different factors he heard that contribute to the overall tone.

It would be very cool if you would .... :yes:
 
:doh:

I just don't get it.... what in the heck is so special about his tone? Not all that great anyway if you ask me.
 
overthemountain":1bfjx5if said:
I did, as long as Peter D's OK I'll post it. Nothing earth-shattering, just talking about all the different factors he heard that contribute to the overall tone.


I'd love to know...if you could PM me...?
 
RJF":avchqqqk said:
:doh:

I just don't get it.... what in the heck is so special about his tone? Not all that great anyway if you ask me.

Did you have a chance to see them when they came around on tour this summer?

My friend who went to the same show was a total metal head not really into Tool at all, now he is totally obsessed with the Jones Tonez. :lol: :LOL:

Wants to practically perform fellattio on me to get his paws on my blueface. :lol: :LOL:

Another guy I know went out and ordered a Wal bass after seeing them in LA on this tour. :doh:
 
Here you go, from Peter S, who was very prompt & kind in responding. The Diezel family kicks ass! :rock:

"I was working on Adam´s Rig about two years ago.
Adam has a very special amp configuration and I did not have enough time to sort all details.
But I could play his guitar through his rig and I tried to disconnect everything just to hear the diezels only.

I later on tried to replicate his "tone" in the factory. It is not all about the amps and stomp boxes.
I noticed 3 Neumann microphones in front of the cabinets......( to be mentioned )

The bottom end comes from the blue faced VH4. Adam was my very very first customer in the USA!!! His amp is one of the very
first VH4´s we ever made. The difference to any later versions is mainly that we have used some ceramic capacitors that Peter replaced
against WIMA type capacitors later on ( which are apparently better and deliver less tolerances )
So this blue amp is constantly on the road for 20 years now and never failed!!!!

The power tubes are Chinese 6L6GCMSTR (Ruby) with more bottom end compared to the standart 6L6GC-BSTR.
The blue face sounds way too dark but Adam loves it.

The highs are more or less "Marshallish" Nobody could answer me the question who modified this amp and what´s in there.
So this is the part of the secret that nobody either knows or was willing to tell me ;)
I could not even see the tubes inside

The VH4´s are connected to the Mesa cabinet. One of those is a bass cabinet.
All three cabinets at a time generate a massiv phase shift and if you play all together while standing in front
of that wall, you´re getting dizzy imediately.

I was trying to replicate this by using one amp and 2 different cabinet constructions ( 1 4X12rear V30 and 1 4X12" front with G12K )

The phase shift is somehow compressing the palm mutes in a natural way. And the result is pretty close to what I´ve heard on stage.
Of course, the high´s from the Marshall half stack are much more harsh compared to the G12K100.
I had no chance to try the Marshall all alone because the time between repair and sound check was very tight.
I can not tell you what the Marshall exactly does.

The pickups are not at all high output pickups. Also his gain settings are moderate too.
I think Adam also wants the speakers to move, I want say he is insainly loud!!!

Back to the Neumann Mics. The sound on stage is slightly different to what I could hear FOH.
I had no chance to look at the channel strips at the FOH console. I think all mikes have extreme stereo panning
which really spreads the sound.

One thing is for sure, we have sold a lot of VH4´s because of honorable Mr. Jones!!!!
I context with the "tool" project and his input, he´s a master mind!

That´s all I can tell about it."
 
So the phase shift I have been fighting for years is part of his sound.

Thanks for posting this ..... :yes:
 
...the more I hear about his rig, the more I'm convinced that if all the AJ tone chasers could have the opportunity to play his setup alone, a lot of them wouldn't like it at all.
Don't misunderstand me, I love his tone but to me it has more to do with his playing style, the guitar parts he create for their songs and above all the close interaction between him and the other members of Tool; when I think about their music I imagine it like a "net" of sounds that works incredibly good together and imho this is the unique beauty of Tool.

What I'm trying to say is that in my opinion if we had the chance to play his Blueface alone through a bass cab, we probably wouldn't like it; same with his Marshall or even the entire rig. The magic really happens when HE plays his rig in THAT particular band...to me it's a waste of time trying to analyze his gear separating it from the rest of the band and extrapolating it from that specific context, because in this case it really matters. Just my 2 cents anyway ;)

Thanks for sharing and long live to Adam Jones!!! :rock:
 
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