BEST MIDI FOOT CONTROLLER - I know, done to death, but c'mon

[petejt]

i really like my roland fc-300
it includes 2 control pedals for volume and wah or other effects
Also includes switch relay for switching non-midi amp channels
also cheaper then the gcx ground control and it also work with the gcx switcher
I really dig using the fc-300 on the patch mode. This way, you can send multiple cc and pc messages to controle multiple midi devices.

Cool, thanks!

 

[lordriffenstein]

What can the All Access do that the Ground Control can't?

For starters, you can set the amount of direct accessible presets/IAs per bank. You can have 10 IAs and 5 presets, or 5 IAs and 10 presets or all 15 IAs or 15 presets. You can program all 15IAs in 1 mode then switch to 10IA/5 PR and you can still use the 15 IAs only 10 of them are accessible. You can send sysex messages, you can send 5 additional midi commands PER preset, these can be program or control changes or whatever you need. I think the only pedal that has more midi-features is the Axess FX1.

The only thing I wanted changed on the AA were the pedal inputs, they can only handle foot controllers and not on/off switches so they are no good for a tap tempo button (maybe they changed that now). I bought mine 2nd hand from a pro player who did between 700 and 800 gigs with it (10 years) and then I used it for another 4-5 years adding another 150 gigs. I had 2 of the buttons changed and that was only needed because they were damaged when a big flightcase was dropped on my board. It was scratched and dirty but I sold it an the new owner is still using it.

 

[mixeduplydian]

Can you assign one of the buttons on the all access to be used as a tap tempo?

 

[Gainzilla]

Can you assign one of the buttons on the all access to be used as a tap tempo?

Absolutely

 

[mixeduplydian]

Thanks!

 

[stratotone]

I was able to set up my Ground Control Pro with four presets, and 8 buttons to turn fx off/on, including a tap tempo with no problems. Some of those extra AA features sound cool, but I bet for 99% of the users of a midi pedal, they aren't going to be used.

I wanted an all access, but it was to get two more fx on/off buttons and one more preset on the bottom row, not to disable chinese satellites with a click of a switch.

Pete

 

[Gainzilla]

I was able to set up my Ground Control Pro with four presets, and 8 buttons to turn fx off/on, including a tap tempo with no problems. Some of those extra AA features sound cool, but I bet for 99% of the users of a midi pedal, they aren't going to be used.

I wanted an all access, but it was to get two more fx on/off buttons and one more preset on the bottom row, not to disable chinese satellites with a click of a switch.

Pete

I have my AA set for all presets Pete, it just works for me that way with 99% of my switching being one button stomp to activate a bunch of different parameters. I know that the AA has onboard memory where the GCP doesnt and that played a part in a previous rig. Ive also used the thing for years and Im a dedicated Rocktron fanboy which also played a part.

Kage

 

[Ventura]

This thread's got a lot of life in it, and I really am thankful for the mounds of info in it... It's come to my realization that my 'original design philosophy' is going to be pretty difficult to do, and not so practical. This coming from both John Clark (Voodoo) and Bob B. (CAE), my wish to have an instant in/out parallel loop assignment for a specific pedal is highly problematic. In essence, I may as well stick with everything in front of my amp - period. As anyone following the start of this thread might have realized, I am building this pedalboard from hell (in a good way ) and needed my TimeFactor to be both IN FRONT of my amp(s) and IN THE LOOP of the amp(s) when I wanted it to be. Tricky bit of business, as the relays needed, and the assignments needed, and the fact that the wet/dry signal path would be all over the map in between the two, I think I'm going with a straight up, IN FRONT amp system.... damn. So be it. I'm fine. No need for cards or flowers...

Having SAID that, I like the Voodoo product the most for its pricing and its alphanumeric display. I like the Pedal Switcher looping system as it's clean, simple and passive/buffered if and when I need it. The CAE stuff is awesome, no doubt about it, but I'm not into strictly numeric read outs, and the PLI is a bit more to work around than the VL model. I know CAE is higher quality, but for my needs and style, the Voodoo stuff will be golden.

I'll keep y'all posted. Now it's a matter of finding the right board - I was horn dogging for the Trailer Trash stuff, but there's something I'm not too keen on - the fact ya gotta punch through the board's surface to get the wiring done - or have it all sent to the lads there to get it done. Right now, PedalTrain is the smartest choice, but their Pro model board might still be too small...

Pics will follow. Oh ya, I think I'll have pics of my new XTC rig coming today as well

Peace,
V.

 

[mortega76]

What... no Behringer "UNO" FCB1010 love? $150 + $10 (Uno)... can't go wrong with that!!!

 

[Zachman]

What... no Behringer "UNO" FCB1010 love?

No, NONE.

$150 + $10 (Uno)... can't go wrong with that!!!

You can go WAY wrong with that, because this is a particularly good example of literally getting what you pay for.

So look before you leap

 

[stratotone]

What... no Behringer "UNO" FCB1010 love? $150 + $10 (Uno)... can't go wrong with that!!!

If I was going to spend that little, I'd get a used Rocktron Midimate and seperate foot controllers. The Behringer is ok, but not built real well.

Pete

 

[mortega76]

What... no Behringer "UNO" FCB1010 love?

No, NONE.

$150 + $10 (Uno)... can't go wrong with that!!!

You can go WAY wrong with that, because this is a particularly good example of literally getting what you pay for.

So look before you leap

Funny...

Don't get me wrong... if you (I) have (had) the cash... (I would) get something else but if all you have is $20 for a "blow job" then knock yourself out!!! Just make sure no one finds out!!!

 

[Zachman]

What... no Behringer "UNO" FCB1010 love?

No, NONE.

$150 + $10 (Uno)... can't go wrong with that!!!

You can go WAY wrong with that, because this is a particularly good example of literally getting what you pay for.

So look before you leap

Funny...

Don't get me wrong... if you (I) have (had) the cash... (I would) get something else but if all you have is $20 for a "blow job" then knock yourself out!!! Just make sure no one finds out!!!

OR... Up your standards, and wait until you can do it well.

There is a saying, "ANYTHING worth doing, is worth doing WELL".

 

[mortega76]

What... no Behringer "UNO" FCB1010 love?

No, NONE.

$150 + $10 (Uno)... can't go wrong with that!!!

You can go WAY wrong with that, because this is a particularly good example of literally getting what you pay for.

So look before you leap

Funny...

Don't get me wrong... if you (I) have (had) the cash... (I would) get something else but if all you have is $20 for a "blow job" then knock yourself out!!! Just make sure no one finds out!!!

OR... Up your standards, and wait until you can do it well.

There is a saying, "ANYTHING worth doing, is worth doing WELL".

Great point... but when do we make the distinction that something is over priced? $1000+ for a midi controller? Wow... some of these midi controllers probably cost more than the amps/effects units they are controlling.

For example the SC1 MIDI Foot Controller is 1340 Euro... and it translates to $1634 US Dollars (1.22 to 1 ratio as of right now). That's a lot for a midi controller.

 

[Zachman]

Great point... but when do we make the distinction that something is over priced?

When we're actually buying, an exotic car-- we shouldn't expect the cost of a scooter, so the answer to your question is simple--

Things are too expensive, when we can't afford them.

Things are over priced when there are other selections which get the same things accomplished for less.

SO... if someone only needs to cross the street, they probably shouldn't be searching for a plane ticket priced solution. I mean, air travel is cool and all, but if you're just crossing the street-- walk, no need to fly 200 mph, to go 50 feet.

$1000+ for a midi controller? Wow... some of these midi controllers probably cost more than the amps/effects units they are controlling.

For example the SC1 MIDI Foot Controller is 1340 Euro... and it translates to $1634 US Dollars (1.22 to 1 ratio as of right now). That's a lot for a midi controller.

Yes, it's definitely a pay to play game.

 

[mortega76]

Great point... but when do we make the distinction that something is over priced?

When we're actually buying, an exotic car-- we shouldn't expect the cost of a scooter, so the answer to your question is simple--

Things are too expensive, when we can't afford them.

Things are over priced when there are other selections which get the same things accomplished for less.

SO... if someone only needs to cross the street, they probably shouldn't be searching for a plane ticket priced solution. I mean, air travel is cool and all, but if you're just crossing the street-- walk, no need to fly 200 mph, to go 50 feet.

$1000+ for a midi controller? Wow... some of these midi controllers probably cost more than the amps/effects units they are controlling.

For example the SC1 MIDI Foot Controller is 1340 Euro... and it translates to $1634 US Dollars (1.22 to 1 ratio as of right now). That's a lot for a midi controller.

Yes, it's definitely a pay to play game.

What... so just because you live in a luxurious place like Hawaii you gotta keep a brotha down?

 

[Zachman]

Great point... but when do we make the distinction that something is over priced?

When we're actually buying, an exotic car-- we shouldn't expect the cost of a scooter, so the answer to your question is simple--

Things are too expensive, when we can't afford them.

Things are over priced when there are other selections which get the same things accomplished for less.

SO... if someone only needs to cross the street, they probably shouldn't be searching for a plane ticket priced solution. I mean, air travel is cool and all, but if you're just crossing the street-- walk, no need to fly 200 mph, to go 50 feet.

$1000+ for a midi controller? Wow... some of these midi controllers probably cost more than the amps/effects units they are controlling.

For example the SC1 MIDI Foot Controller is 1340 Euro... and it translates to $1634 US Dollars (1.22 to 1 ratio as of right now). That's a lot for a midi controller.

Yes, it's definitely a pay to play game.

What... so just because you live in a luxurious place like Hawaii you gotta keep a brotha down?

I remember being a kid and wanting stacks of Marshalls and not being able to afford them, but never looked at it like they were over priced. I just figured I didn't have enough $$$ 'Yet', because they costed what they costed.

 

[JC-Tonequest]

Oh, I see you are in Belgium. Why not get a Gordius Little Giant. It's one of the most powerful midi foot pedals I have ever come across. They are based in Belgium as well. I just got mine. That is why I am selling my Axess MFC5. Xavier (the owner) is very responsive and helpful with any questions you have about his products.

http://www.gordius.be/midi-footcontroller-lg.php

If you are talking to me, then this is my board:

So I don't really need another controller

What company make this? I can't make it out in the picture. Explain all it's capabilites please.

Thanks,
JC

 

[Ancient Alien]

Oh, I see you are in Belgium. Why not get a Gordius Little Giant. It's one of the most powerful midi foot pedals I have ever come across. They are based in Belgium as well. I just got mine. That is why I am selling my Axess MFC5. Xavier (the owner) is very responsive and helpful with any questions you have about his products.

http://www.gordius.be/midi-footcontroller-lg.php

If you are talking to me, then this is my board:

So I don't really need another controller

What company make this? I can't make it out in the picture. Explain all it's capabilites please.

Thanks,
JC

About $1500 USD+ with the custom case it has. Made in the Netherlands
http://www.guitar-systems.com/gaspedal.html

 

[Gainzilla]

If you are talking to me, then this is my board:

So I don't really need another controller

What company make this? I can't make it out in the picture. Explain all it's capabilites please.

Thanks,
JC

Im not Yoeri but the Controller is the Paul Lenders Gaspedal, you can find it here;

http://www.guitar-systems.com/gaspedal.html


Paul builds the best looking boards that I have ever seen and they are as good functionaly as they are aesthetically. I was going to have some work done by Paul but the fact that he is Europe and Im here in The US made it impractical. I am building another rig and Im going to find a way to have Paul Build the board for it. Hes an absolute gentleman and a pleasure to deal with.

Heres his site;

http://www.paullenders.com/

Kage