Best "plexi" sound that's not Marshall

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About to part ways with my Roadster. Great amp but ready to go a different direction tonally. Thinking about going for that Plexi\JMP sound. I know that's a big topic in and of itself and I can see this being spun into an entire debate about 50's vs 100's, different eras of circuits, etc. My question is more about what others have tried that got those general sounds but weren't Marshall. The Emplexador vid on the board sparked my interest. What else is out there? A couple I was specifically curious about were the Germinos,Morgans, and the Dr Z Remedy. Anyone have experience with these? What other good ones are out there?

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I have a Dr Z 6545 and I think the SRZ65 side is very JMP/Plexi-ish. I just wish it had a loop. Been spoiled by the Diezel loops.
 
The emplexador is made well but its too dark to sound like an authentic plexi. Why would you not buy a marshall in order to do marshall? curious
 
Definitely not opposed to Marshall per se, actually the more I listen to the 70's 50-watt JMP's the more I want one. I just want to make sure there's not something really good out there that might get overlooked because I was too focused on one brand.
 
ok, gotcha I have found after trying just about every clone out there that all are made really well but have something about them that is different than a Marshall. Either too smooth or not enough highs or too much lows etc etc... I think what makes a marshall sound so great is that is has that harshness and high end that when cranked is the sound of rock... its not a produced sound, its really raw and maybe offensive to some. So the boutique guys take out the "offensive" elements to appeal to certain players and something is lost in the process. The metro reproductions sound good but so does a 70's JMP. My wizard modern classic is about as close as you can get to my brothers 69 Marshall SL...its crazy good. I also like the marshall reissues, with a good set of tubes and good guitar the sound is there. I would definitely try before you buy if possible whatever you decide... good luck
 
Fargen? They make a few models that could work for you (one of which is for sale in the Classifieds right now - the Olde 800 MKII).
 
lespaul6":27lwxdv1 said:
ok, gotcha I have found after trying just about every clone out there that all are made really well but have something about them that is different than a Marshall. Either too smooth or not enough highs or too much lows etc etc... I think what makes a marshall sound so great is that is has that harshness and high end that when cranked is the sound of rock... its not a produced sound, its really raw and maybe offensive to some. So the boutique guys take out the "offensive" elements to appeal to certain players and something is lost in the process. The metro reproductions sound good but so does a 70's JMP. My wizard modern classic is about as close as you can get to my brothers 69 Marshall SL...its crazy good. I also like the marshall reissues, with a good set of tubes and good guitar the sound is there. I would definitely try before you buy if possible whatever you decide... good luck
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That's a thoughtful good post! Thanks...
 
lespaul6":34c33mw4 said:
ok, gotcha I have found after trying just about every clone out there that all are made really well but have something about them that is different than a Marshall. Either too smooth or not enough highs or too much lows etc etc... I think what makes a marshall sound so great is that is has that harshness and high end that when cranked is the sound of rock... its not a produced sound, its really raw and maybe offensive to some. So the boutique guys take out the "offensive" elements to appeal to certain players and something is lost in the process. The metro reproductions sound good but so does a 70's JMP. My wizard modern classic is about as close as you can get to my brothers 69 Marshall SL...its crazy good. I also like the marshall reissues, with a good set of tubes and good guitar the sound is there. I would definitely try before you buy if possible whatever you decide... good luck
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My experience also .... I will add if you can try it with your guitar, cabs & other gear it would be a very good idea. I have not owned a Marshall in many years. I found other gear that fits me better in the vintage English crunch sounds.... THD. If you can find Hiwatt, Matamp & Orange style amps you might also like these. Personally in most cases I prefer these over Marshall's...
 
Germino makes some great classic Marshall tone amps. Clubman is great.
 
If you want a real JMP/Marshall tone, BUY ONE! Why buy a knockoff of one when you can buy a real one at around the same price?

Besides that, if you've never owned one - you should. Then if you want to get a clone or something that sounds like a Marshall, you'll at least have a good touchstone for what you're wanting... I'm not saying this is true of the original poster, but most people who go on about marshall or plexi or JMP tone have only experienced clips or albums that used those amps. The real thing is affordable, why not just do that?

If I was looking for an amp that had useful features for gigging like extra channels, fx loop, AND could sound like an old Marshall - I'd go Bogner Ecstasy all the way. There is a plexi mode that is great, but is much lower gain that people think. A Plexi was never a high gain amp.

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stratotone":yb0fm7mi said:
If you want a real JMP/Marshall tone, BUY ONE! Why buy a knockoff of one when you can buy a real one at around the same price?

Besides that, if you've never owned one - you should. Then if you want to get a clone or something that sounds like a Marshall, you'll at least have a good touchstone for what you're wanting... I'm not saying this is true of the original poster, but most people who go on about marshall or plexi or JMP tone have only experienced clips or albums that used those amps. The real thing is affordable, why not just do that?

If I was looking for an amp that had useful features for gigging like extra channels, fx loop, AND could sound like an old Marshall - I'd go Bogner Ecstasy all the way. There is a plexi mode that is great, but is much lower gain that people think. A Plexi was never a high gain amp.

Pete
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Took the words out of my mouth. Get the real deal and get to know it, then move on from there if you so desire. I found my answer in a Bogner Goldfinger but it is certainly no plexi clone. I just highlights what *I* like out of old Marshalls. For every person, the answer could be different...
 
Metropoulos, Germino and for Marshalll variety: Emplexador!
 
Superdrives are nothing like a super lead
they have the "same" preamp section as the Friedman Naked, so hardly a plexi

I think the most authentic sounding vintage marshall based amps I've heard are Brays
and they are not too overpriced like some of the other high end stuff (still very expensive)
https://www.youtube.com/user/DavidBrayAmps/videos
 
Tough call, and there's a fuck ton of them out there. Main thing though is the master. If you are going to man up and get something without a master and be able to play it to get the full brunt of the Plexi tone, that's one thing and fairly easy to replicate in clones. If you are getting something with a master, a loop and other alterations - this is where amps part ways. If you didn't want a Marshall, and depending on your budget, I would look around in the Wizard, Suhr, Voodoo or Bray camps.
 
Let me state the obvious.. Bugera 1960? The new one with PPIMV and one wire mod. Thing sounds pretty good to my ears in the demos! Besides that, a used 800.
 
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