Bogner Uber Ultra vs Mesa Rectifier

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Been a little while since I posted. I've seen lots of positive reviews on the new Uber Ultra lately. I've never tried an Uberschall unfortunately, but I have a fantastic Ecstasy 101B from 1997 that impressed me with Bogner. I have several high gainers (Friedman BE100 DLX, Monomyth Skeleton Key, Bogner 101B, Fryette Deliverance D60) and I'm looking for a different flavour. There's always talk about which Recto is best (Dual vs Triple, Rev C vs F etc.) but I'm just wondering how the Uber Ultra compares to the Recto line and if either of these would be different enough from what I currently have....or a Mark series (just not the V I was not blown away by it).

Thanks!
 
Bottom line is both are awesome in the right hands.

Recto is a classic - not the most exciting amp around, but is fun and takes you back 20+ years really quickly. Not that it can’t be used in a modern context as well, but there are some enticing options if you want to move to the next level….like the Uber Ultra.

To me the Ultra is a metal amp - aggressive as shit, tight, huge, and mean. Can boost it but doesn’t need it the way a recto absolutely needs it(for my taste).

Both amps side by side you’d find the Ultra much tighter and more “angry metal” in nature. Something slightly more classic about a recto in comparison. Kinda just rambling but it’s really a question of “classic heavy” or “modern heavy”. If you’re not into boosting, I’d steer clear of the recto.
 
Im in the same exact boat. I own a 98 XTC 101B and never owned a recto. Looking at an UU but considering my options carefully as I’m not 100% sold.

Ive spoken to someone who owns an XTC and a UU EL34 and he said the UU is different enough to warrant both as they both excel in different areas (XTC channel versatility and UU voicing versatility)

I’ve been wanting to add something recto and was looking at an F until I saw the prices they go for. I’m planning on a triple multi-watt or a roadster (less complexity of a roadking II)

As for your mark comment, that’s a completely different voice all together IMO. I grabbed my mark III++ Coli for whitesnake 80’s inspired tones. I still want to grab a recto as IMO they aren’t to be grouped in the same vain.
 
glpg80 said:
Im in the same exact boat. I own a 98 XTC 101B and never owned a recto. Looking at an UU but considering my options carefully as I’m not 100% sold.

Ive spoken to someone who owns an XTC and a UU EL34 and he said the UU is different enough to warrant both as they both excel in different areas (XTC channel versatility and UU voicing versatility)

I’ve been wanting to add something recto and was looking at an F until I saw the prices they go for. I’m planning on a triple multi-watt or a roadster (less complexity of a roadking II)

As for your mark comment, that’s a completely different voice all together IMO. I grabbed my mark III++ Coli for whitesnake 80’s inspired tones. I still want to grab a recto as IMO they aren’t to be grouped in the same vain.
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Good point! I never even thought about the EL34, 6L6, KT88 comparison for the Uber....
 
jbru91 said:
Good point! I never even thought about the EL34, 6L6, KT88 comparison for the Uber....
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Stay away from the KT88 model for now. Many (not all) have had to return them due to instability problems. It’s well documented - search the forum.
 
Bxlxaxkxe said:
Bottom line is both are awesome in the right hands.

Recto is a classic - not the most exciting amp around, but is fun and takes you back 20+ years really quickly. Not that it can’t be used in a modern context as well, but there are some enticing options if you want to move to the next level….like the Uber Ultra.

To me the Ultra is a metal amp - aggressive as shit, tight, huge, and mean. Can boost it but doesn’t need it the way a recto absolutely needs it(for my taste).

Both amps side by side you’d find the Ultra much tighter and more “angry metal” in nature. Something slightly more classic about a recto in comparison. Kinda just rambling but it’s really a question of “classic heavy” or “modern heavy”. If you’re not into boosting, I’d steer clear of the recto.
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Pretty good idea
 
Lots of Uber talk lately. I'm loving it!

I own both and I would say the UU can do more than the Recto. The UU has a more aggressive voicing and sounds much bigger than recto without having to use an OD pedal. Cleans are much better as well if that matters to you any. Crunch on the Uber is more rock oriented while the recto crunch tones are more modern like you hear on a ton of 2000's pop punk bands.

Mark series is a different animal all together. Its an ultra tight metal chug machine. Huge lows, percussive attack and some of the best lead tones you'll achieve out of any other amp in existence.

The XTC 101B is a refined, polished and dark boutique Marshall. Nothing like the Uber or Recto at all.
 
PurityS.L.G said:
Lots of Uber talk lately. I'm loving it!

I own both and I would say the UU can do more than the Recto. The UU has a more aggressive voicing and sounds much bigger than recto without having to use an OD pedal. Cleans are much better as well if that matters to you any. Crunch on the Uber is more rock oriented while the recto crunch tones are more modern like you hear on a ton of 2000's pop punk bands.

Mark series is a different animal all together. Its an ultra tight metal chug machine. Huge lows, percussive attack and some of the best lead tones you'll achieve out of any other amp in existence.

The XTC 101B is a refined, polished and dark boutique Marshall. Nothing like the Uber or Recto at all.
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Assuming the Mark IIC line is out of the equation due to price, what Mark series would you recommend?
 
Bxlxaxkxe said:
Bottom line is both are awesome in the right hands.

Recto is a classic - not the most exciting amp around, but is fun and takes you back 20+ years really quickly. Not that it can’t be used in a modern context as well, but there are some enticing options if you want to move to the next level….like the Uber Ultra.

To me the Ultra is a metal amp - aggressive as shit, tight, huge, and mean. Can boost it but doesn’t need it the way a recto absolutely needs it(for my taste).

Both amps side by side you’d find the Ultra much tighter and more “angry metal” in nature. Something slightly more classic about a recto in comparison. Kinda just rambling but it’s really a question of “classic heavy” or “modern heavy”. If you’re not into boosting, I’d steer clear of the recto.
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Do you have / did you try the EL34 or 6L6 version?
 
I remember a years ago there was a DR here in Seattle at the now gone downtown GC that was modified by Mesa. They took out the rectifier tubes and added a other pair of power tubes. Is the transformer in the Dual and Triple the same ?
Anyway I don't know if the preamp was changed. I think it was a G. Steve King asked me to go check it out. It sounded alright. But not as good as my Tremoverb. So I didn't buy it.

When they first came out I was living in Orlando. I saw a all black one that was probably a C. It sounded particularly good. Should have bought that one.
My experience with them is they all sound different individually. So if you find one you like keep it.
 
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