Mahlakuorrutus
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Has anyone ever thought of something like this? Doesn't sound bad and seems to be pretty handy. Too bad I don't have any bass drum cases lying around here.
Has anyone ever thought of something like this? Doesn't sound bad and seems to be pretty handy. Too bad I don't have any bass drum cases lying around here.
Nashville Riff Co
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YES!
Pete thorn actually built his own that he uses for his recordings to this day!!
It was like 2011 or something, I’ll see if I can find my notes about it because at one point I was wanting to convert an empty closet in the house to something like this exactly!
Pete thorn actually built his own that he uses for his recordings to this day!!
It was like 2011 or something, I’ll see if I can find my notes about it because at one point I was wanting to convert an empty closet in the house to something like this exactly!
Nashville Riff Co
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Found it:
And some good detail in the comments from Pete too!
1. “Around $400, I'd estimate, the cables and Neutrik ends are expensive ( 70 feet of mogami mic cable, 35 feet of Marshall Sound Runner speaker cable, around $125) and the mineral fiber/burlap stuff was around $100 or so. add jacks, wood, silicone to seal the edges inside, weather stripping, screws, L brackets.. I think that's it.”
2. “Hi, I used 3/4 inch MDF particle board- I'd recommend 1" if you can find it, it's a bit tough to track down.”
And some good detail in the comments from Pete too!
1. “Around $400, I'd estimate, the cables and Neutrik ends are expensive ( 70 feet of mogami mic cable, 35 feet of Marshall Sound Runner speaker cable, around $125) and the mineral fiber/burlap stuff was around $100 or so. add jacks, wood, silicone to seal the edges inside, weather stripping, screws, L brackets.. I think that's it.”
2. “Hi, I used 3/4 inch MDF particle board- I'd recommend 1" if you can find it, it's a bit tough to track down.”
Mahlakuorrutus
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That's pretty cool also, I'm not that great with woodwork so I'd probably try the base drum case trick first.
Nashville Riff Co
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Right on dude, I hope it works because it would certainly be a hell of a lot easier than cutting holes in walls etc!
Mahlakuorrutus
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Yup, living in a small apartment sure is not ideal when it comes to recording guitars.
Nashville Riff Co
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Yup, living in a small apartment sure is not ideal when it comes to recording guitars.
Oh yea dude, I remember that experience painfully vividly!
Do you have any sort of a load box setup to at least get you by or just looking for some way to mic up?
Mahlakuorrutus
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Just to mic up, an Iso Box would also get rid of the terrible acoustics of a square 1 room apartment.
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VonBonfire
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No room mic, no deal. But I suppose it makes sense if you are just recording very dry tones or have vol restrictions in your AO.
Mahlakuorrutus
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I'm not big into room mics on guitars so an Iso Box would be perfect for me.
RaceU4her
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Maybe in 2011 that would have been cool, nowadays I would rather just go with IR’s??
Mahlakuorrutus
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3rd party IRs imo give worse results than micing up the amp and if you're going to create your own IRs then you need to mic your cab again so..
RaceU4her
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I have no experience with IR’s and I don’t have the golden ears of some, but I cant buy anymore they dont sound as good from what i hear, and the options and ease of use has me questioning why im still going through the hassle of trying to mic, especially in a home studio. i know clicking a button to switch and compare speakers and mics in a mix on the fly sounds a lot nicer than having to actually switch a speaker in the cab and re-record everything and all that.
Mahlakuorrutus
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I used to have a Torpedo Live that I used with my amp and I bought countless 3rd party IRs from numerous different companies and still wasn't satisfied with the sound & response. Then one day I got myself a 1x12 cab and an sm57, miced the cab and boom there's the tone & feel immediately, even my amp being on super low volume and without any acoustic treatment.
Ended up selling the Torpedo Live and haven't looked back since.
Kapo_Polenton
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If you watch later videos, Pete Thorn moved on from that design. He did also say that it ended up sounding boxy compared to what he has now. His studio has a studio side and then a cab side. He uses those amp pack plexi shields with the acoustic panels on inside and the top. The cracks between the shield allow air/pressure to escape. So he has more space around his cabs. It can work for sure but when you A/B the difference, you will hear more top end and less pressure or boxiness. So always let some air escape ( but that means sound escapes)
Mahlakuorrutus
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In that case I'd opt for a smaller amp with a good master volume.
Is there a video where he talks about the boxiness of his former setup?
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njshred
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Once upon a time, when I had 4,000 sq ft house, I built five isolation boxes in the basement. They were 48” tall, 124.8” long and 76.8” wide, each, using Pythagorean’s Golden Theory.
I had 4” acoustical foam on the “ceiling”, side walls and back wall, 12” thick on wall receiving the sound and 2” on the “floor”. The units had three layers of 5/8”, green glued drywall inside and outside (six in total) on staggered 2x8 framing with mass loaded vinyl running between the staggered studs.
It was effectively silent outside the chambers.
I had 4” acoustical foam on the “ceiling”, side walls and back wall, 12” thick on wall receiving the sound and 2” on the “floor”. The units had three layers of 5/8”, green glued drywall inside and outside (six in total) on staggered 2x8 framing with mass loaded vinyl running between the staggered studs.
It was effectively silent outside the chambers.
Mahlakuorrutus
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How was the recorded sound?
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njshred
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I did not have room mics, just SM57s, but it sounded good and resolved my sleeping baby issue at the time. Each had a 4x12, with four different speakers, each mic’d up giving me twenty options to mix/match. It all ran to a box upstairs where I could feed the cabinet I wanted, and then select the mic I wanted. It was the ultimate setup, but life was very busy/complicated then, so I did not get the utilization I had hoped for. It was like having a ton of IRs today, but 100% analog.
Mahlakuorrutus
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That sounds fucking awesome. Really have to start figuring out how to build one for me.