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[hyenik MTS]

Bill: Wow, my module sounds so much different!!!
Ted: Well no shit, it doesn't even have one original component on it anymore. But does it sound better than what you started with??
Bill: Well, considering the time it took to do the mod, coupled with the fact that I forgot what the fuck it sounded like before I sent it out.. No, it probably doesn't sound any better, just different. But at least I got a cool faceplate !!

nice story, but  your friend Bill tried probably some bad modder.
Instead of your irresponsible speculations, try any Salvation mods module. It is much more than only fancy faceplate and you will change your mind...

PS: Or ask Michael Wagener for his placebo effect. http://www.gearslutz.com/board/attachme ... 1245300220

 

[Anonymous]

Klark: Wow, I'm a complete pompous douchebag!!!
Rig Talk Forum: We know Klark, we know.

Fixed.

 

[Mailman1971]

I liked Anthony's Mods....
top notch!

But nothing is like the REAL DEAL!

 

[jlbaxe]

I liked Anthony's Mods....
top notch!

But nothing is like the REAL DEAL!

REAL DEAL !!!!!!

 

[tehuk]

I liked Anthony's Mods....
top notch!

But nothing is like the REAL DEAL!

REAL DEAL !!!!!!

I agree that nothing beats the real thing but if something gets me 90% there I'll take it. No other amp can have Fender cleans, Plexi crunch, Mark smooth leads, or Engl brootz within the same unit. The M4 with Salvation mods does that for me and I couldn't be happier.

 

[Mailman1971]

I liked Anthony's Mods....
top notch!

But nothing is like the REAL DEAL!

REAL DEAL !!!!!!

No other amp can have Fender cleans, Plexi crunch, Mark smooth leads, or Engl brootz within the same unit.

My Diezel VH4 does....

 

[tehuk]

I liked Anthony's Mods....
top notch!

But nothing is like the REAL DEAL!

REAL DEAL !!!!!!

No other amp can have Fender cleans, Plexi crunch, Mark smooth leads, or Engl brootz within the same unit.

My Diezel VH4 does....

My friend has a VH4 in his studio. It is a GREAT amp and it will tear your face off when playing hard rock/metal. IMO it doesn't have Fender cleans or Mark's smooth lead tones. If you don't believe me try playing Glasgow Kiss by John Petrucci.

 

[Mailman1971]

Sounds cool! Glad the MTS is working out for you.
I owned 5 of them amps.
Loved them all.

 

[Klark]

Klark: Wow, I'm a complete pompous douchebag!!!
Rig Talk Forum: We know Klark, we know.

Oh wow, that really means a lot coming from someone with 5 posts, and most likely zero professional experience. It's a free country, so you're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine. My experiences are obviously different than yours, and that's cool, because that's why people read forums, to learn from each others experiences. The difference is my opinion is NOT solely based on a one or two module experience. My experience is based off of five different modules, ordered by three different customers. This whole argument is no different than any other internet argument where guys (like yourself) excessively over candy coat their very limited exposure to a product. I, however, choose to look at the much larger picture, which is why is the number of hacked up modules sold through internet forums pretty much equal the number of stock modules sold?? Easy, because in the end, they're just as unhappy with hacked up modules as they are with stock modules. The excitement, the cool faceplates, and the change tone is what keeps people ordering. In most cases it's just a small change in tone, not a major improvement.. Therefore in the end, definitely NOT worth a 3x price increase, let alone the shipping hassles and wait time. The two guys that brought me their modules both stated that they would have been much better off upgrading their tubes or cones.

It's easy to see that the Egnater modules are the least sold second hand, and also the least modded. So, one of the smartest decisions would be to spend the extra money on the Egnater from the start, and if you can't get the tones you're looking for, maybe look at other options such as pickup swap, tube swap, add a compressor, try a closed back cab, change the speakers, etc.. There's a bazillion other things to try that are hell of a lot more beneficial and cost effective, especially when the guy modding your is half way around the world, has NO idea what pickups, power amp, cabinet, or cones you're using.

Sure, modding anything is fun, but modding modules is can be extremely rewarding, IF you do it yourself. They're so easy to remove, so easy to access to the components, and none of the circuitry is rocket science. Therefore, fuck shipping that shit around the world and hoping it's going to better for 3x the price.. MOD THAT SHIT YOURSELF! There is absolutely NOTHING that will blow up or electrocute you. The components cost almost nothing. And the only tools you need are the tools you should have anyway. Even if you don't know how to solder, and don't understand cap & resistor values, what better time to learn! There's first timers that build complete amplifiers from start to finish, so don't even try to tell me working on a module would be too difficult for you!! Within a few component swaps you'll either get it more to your liking, or realize that it'll never get as close as the real thing. Modules were designed to get close, but never to replace.

 

[Anonymous]

Oh wow, that really means a lot coming from someone with 5 posts, and most likely zero professional experience. It's a free country, so you're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine. My experiences are obviously different than yours, and that's cool, because that's why people read forums, to learn from each others experiences. The difference is my opinion is NOT solely based on a one or two module experience. My experience is based off of five different modules, ordered by three different customers. This whole argument is no different than any other internet argument where guys (like yourself) excessively over candy coat their very limited exposure to a product. I, however, choose to look at the much larger picture, which is why is the number of hacked up modules sold through internet forums pretty much equal the number of stock modules sold?? Easy, because in the end, they're just as unhappy with hacked up modules as they are with stock modules. The excitement, the cool faceplates, and the change tone is what keeps people ordering. In most cases it's just a small change in tone, not a major improvement.. Therefore in the end, definitely NOT worth a 3x price increase, let alone the shipping hassles and wait time. The two guys that brought me their modules both stated that they would have been much better off upgrading their tubes or cones.

It's easy to see that the Egnater modules are the least sold second hand, and also the least modded. So, one of the smartest decisions would be to spend the extra money on the Egnater from the start, and if you can't get the tones you're looking for, maybe look at other options such as pickup swap, tube swap, add a compressor, try a closed back cab, change the speakers, etc.. There's a bazillion other things to try that are hell of a lot more beneficial and cost effective, especially when the guy modding your is half way around the world, has NO idea what pickups, power amp, cabinet, or cones you're using.

Sure, modding anything is fun, but modding modules is can be extremely rewarding, IF you do it yourself. They're so easy to remove, so easy to access to the components, and none of the circuitry is rocket science. Therefore, fuck shipping that shit around the world and hoping it's going to better for 3x the price.. MOD THAT SHIT YOURSELF! There is absolutely NOTHING that will blow up or electrocute you. The components cost almost nothing. And the only tools you need are the tools you should have anyway. Even if you don't know how to solder, and don't understand cap & resistor values, what better time to learn! There's first timers that build complete amplifiers from start to finish, so don't even try to tell me working on a module would be too difficult for you!! Within a few component swaps you'll either get it more to your liking, or realize that it'll never get as close as the real thing. Modules were designed to get close, but never to replace.

Yup still a douchebag. Good luck with your presumptions and better yet good luck being a complete dick loser all your life. Your reputation precedes you. Fuck you very much.

 

[Klark]

Yup still a douchebag. Good luck with your presumptions and better yet good luck being a complete dick loser all your life. Your reputation precedes you. Fuck you very much.

LOL, that's your response? What are you? 14?

 

[Mailman1971]

Yup still a douchebag. Good luck with your presumptions and better yet good luck being a complete dick loser all your life. Your reputation precedes you. Fuck you very much.

LOL, that's your response? What are you? 14?

Exactly...............
Here is the thing.......
Modded modules sound good.
But they dont sound GREAT!
take THAT for what it is.......

 

[tehuk]

Klark: Wow, I'm a complete pompous douchebag!!!
Rig Talk Forum: We know Klark, we know.

Oh wow, that really means a lot coming from someone with 5 posts, and most likely zero professional experience. It's a free country, so you're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine. My experiences are obviously different than yours, and that's cool, because that's why people read forums, to learn from each others experiences. The difference is my opinion is NOT solely based on a one or two module experience. My experience is based off of five different modules, ordered by three different customers. This whole argument is no different than any other internet argument where guys (like yourself) excessively over candy coat their very limited exposure to a product. I, however, choose to look at the much larger picture, which is why is the number of hacked up modules sold through internet forums pretty much equal the number of stock modules sold?? Easy, because in the end, they're just as unhappy with hacked up modules as they are with stock modules. The excitement, the cool faceplates, and the change tone is what keeps people ordering. In most cases it's just a small change in tone, not a major improvement.. Therefore in the end, definitely NOT worth a 3x price increase, let alone the shipping hassles and wait time. The two guys that brought me their modules both stated that they would have been much better off upgrading their tubes or cones.

It's easy to see that the Egnater modules are the least sold second hand, and also the least modded. So, one of the smartest decisions would be to spend the extra money on the Egnater from the start, and if you can't get the tones you're looking for, maybe look at other options such as pickup swap, tube swap, add a compressor, try a closed back cab, change the speakers, etc.. There's a bazillion other things to try that are hell of a lot more beneficial and cost effective, especially when the guy modding your is half way around the world, has NO idea what pickups, power amp, cabinet, or cones you're using.

Sure, modding anything is fun, but modding modules is can be extremely rewarding, IF you do it yourself. They're so easy to remove, so easy to access to the components, and none of the circuitry is rocket science. Therefore, fuck shipping that shit around the world and hoping it's going to better for 3x the price.. MOD THAT SHIT YOURSELF! There is absolutely NOTHING that will blow up or electrocute you. The components cost almost nothing. And the only tools you need are the tools you should have anyway. Even if you don't know how to solder, and don't understand cap & resistor values, what better time to learn! There's first timers that build complete amplifiers from start to finish, so don't even try to tell me working on a module would be too difficult for you!! Within a few component swaps you'll either get it more to your liking, or realize that it'll never get as close as the real thing. Modules were designed to get close, but never to replace.

Yup still a douchebag. Good luck with your presumptions and better yet good luck being a complete dick loser all your life. Your reputation precedes you. Fuck you very much.

LOL, that's your response? What are you? 14?

You sound like a butt-hurt geezer. I highly doubt you've owned let alone seen a Salvation module. How can you say these are "hacked up"? There have been ZERO complaints posted since he began modding.

I don't know what knowledge you have of electronics but turning a Vox circuit into Mark circuit is no small change. In addition the Mark module has the tonestack placed before distortion, has a sixth tone pot, and a built in noise gate. One of the big "modders" failed miserably before I asked Salvation to do it.

I'm done with this thread dude. Have fun with your modules and I'll have rock out with mine.

Peace

 

[Anonymous]

LOL, that's your response? What are you? 14?

That's my exact thought every time I read one of your posts. But alas, trolling Klark is like riding the village bike. Too easy and boring after a few minutes.

For the record I'm well aware there is only so much that can be done with the few revisions of the abbreviated circuit for these things. To put things back on topic I like the clips I've heard of both the module and the preamp. Would I own one of either? Nope. I'm more of a Marshall/Mesa guy. That's why I got into this setup. It really is the most versatile system out there. The Egnater take on Vox and Fender tone is simply stellar. I generally chide the other guitarist for my pop project by telling him my VX is what his Custom Classic should sound like.

I really don't understand the agenda behind bashing what Anthony is doing. I don't have the means to fabricate the faceplates nor yet have the skill to add some of the features he does. Factor in that if you swing the right deal for a used module at about a C note, you are right around the same price as an Egnater single. I haven't yet made a direct comparison but plan to.