are you being serious or just trying to prove a point? I'm not going to sit and try to reason or explain myself to everyone. I have been very clear on everything. This section of rig talk is a fucking cesspool of political pundits and weirdos from both sides of the aisle. We have went above and beyond again and again to look the other way and allow people to express and say what they want because we do care about free speech. HOWEVER-this place is part of a business....that deals with other businesses. When they communicate with the owners asking what is up with this section and why is it allowed to exist? Enough is enough. I recommended that this shithole be eliminated from this site because grown ass men cannot even be trusted to not harass-stalk-threaten and constantly be fucking dicks to each other. And the icing on the cake was the attack on Cliff at Fractal. Also-I don't get paid for what I do here, no mods do....it's completely voluntary. And for that reason I'm not sticking my neck out there and accepting any legal liabilities because of something that happened on this section. And trust me-there's shit that goes on here that you folks know nothing about. You don't have to like or agree with me...I'm fine with that...but by God members will adhere to what we ask or they can go somewhere else. If that does not work for anybody here-please feel free to contact any of the higher ups you want. And I'm going to be totally honest here....I'm not going to deal with any disrespect towards myself, Nik, or Tyler. So, fuck any practitioner of whatever that does not listen to what I just said. Got me? Seems to me if I just banned everyone that has tried destroying and dismantling this forum we would not be here right now.